How do you know you have issues picking up social cues?
Yes, this is particularly frustrating. It's easy to concentrate on our own personal difficulties reading social cues, without remembering that our own cues (or lack of them) are so often being misinterpreted too. If I do become aware that my own instincts are failing me, then I can recognise it and ask questions that might resolve my confusion. But, many people seem to find it impossible to believe that their "social instincts" could ever be incorrect - so there's no obvious sign when I am being misinterpreted, and I can't take any action to clarify the situation. There have been times when I have not discovered that this has happened until months or even years after the original misunderstanding - and that's only the ones I know about (which might only be a tiny proportion of them).
Yes. And sometimes they get furious, or don't believe you, or think you're being manipulative, or they don't believe you could be so stupid, when you try to explain to them that their social instincts were incorrect. That you're different and relate differently and communicate differently seems an impossible concept for them to grasp. And they feel so, so insulted when you tell them they misunderstood your intent. For me--even people who know I'm weird, even the ones who know that the weirdness is a form of Autism, even the ones who have studied Asperger's disorder and know exactly what it is and what I am and why communication with me is sometimes tricky and bizarre--they still get mad and cling to what they thought I meant based on social cues I didn't even know I was making instead of believing what I tell them was really in my head when I said that thing they got all upset and worked up about.
Oh I'm the same! Personally, I think most people don't really care whether I get the social cues or not, unless it's something "obvious" for them or when they tell me "you always understand it in the wrong way!". So that's why I don't really know if I'm good at picking social cues or not. Looking at tests I've passed online, I seem to be pretty bad at it. But I think it's a "big" issues for people around, the opposite is not true though!
People have really got at me for having the "inappropriate" social cues. People have already thought I was being rebellious (the teachers,) I didn't like them, I was being secretive, manupalutive... Most of the time, I think they're a bit puzzled when they're trying to "decode" me because I seem to find it difficult to express social cues.
So yeah I think that for people, what's more annoying is not that you can't decode their social cues but rather that they can't decode yours.
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I’m not sure how good or poor I’m at this, but I do remember many misunderstandings, also situations when someone expected me to comfort them but I didn’t pick it and I’m terrible at comforting people, I don’t actually do it. I remember people telling me that someone wanted to say this or that, I also had problems at work in retail and customer service because of that. I also had some painfully awkward situations like for example I was told I shouldn’t be so shy, so I decided to approach someone in the street (a total stranger) and share with him that I have a tumor on my ovary. I had at that time. I didn’t even understand that his look meant a total shock. I only realised that years later. I remember a boss telling me that I can’t speak so flat I need to modulate my voice when talking to customers (it was a bookstore) and make better eye contact. I told her I’m not an actress and I can’t control how I speak and behave when I have to concentrate on the customer’s issue or question to find answer etc. I don’t have diagnosis but I was told by my therapist he suspects me autistic and I’m exploring this possibility now. Now I think I’m relatively better at that, but still I notice that someone’s expression changed but I don’t know what it actually means. I wouldn’t share such private thing with a stranger anymore though.
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I believe here is how good your parents\tutors are to teach it... I was luck here so I don't have except like recently I'm in depression\anxiety\under pressure.
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When I was a child, maybe 7 or 8 years old, my parents and I went on a vacation with another family. I remember my mother telling me that I shouldn’t squint when someone is taking pictures of us as a group. So, with those instructions in mind and the sun glaring in my face for the next photo, I forced myself to keep my eyes as wide as possible. The sun caused my eyes to water and I was so focused on my eyes that I forgot to smile for the camera. Afterwards she slapped my face because I didn’t smile.
She’s lucky I didn’t become an assassin after that. Hah! But I did learn how to play the video game Assassin’s Creed much later in life. And I have always defended kids and adults who I’ve come across in similar situations.
Neurotypical people can be clueless too.
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I found this question intriguing because I have no idea if I am good (or bad) at picking this stuff up.
Then, earlier today, I was driving and I saw someone use their turn signal indicator. I knew, based upon their use of that "cue", that they were intending to turn right. This is a "cue" that I learned when I was young, watching my Mom drive. I see it so often now, that I know (almost automatically), what to expect when I see that "cue". I only become confused when the follow-on behavior does not match that "cue".
This then made me wonder about social "cues" and how those are different (in terms of being able to recognize the various "cues" and respond quickly enough).
Going back to my main question, how do you know you have issues picking up social cues? Did you figure this out yourself (and, if so, how)? Or did you need to be told?
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I don't actually pay attention to social cues and mostly I really don't care much for it.
A good half of it is being too busy 'managing executive dysfunction' be it working and short term memory or sensory and emotional dysregulation, which is becoming less of a problem when I'm finding ways to manage this undiagnosed illness that people has been misattributing as a part of autism.
And when I do 'care' and have the right conditions to pay attention (not dealing with the crap) and have the space to observe (no crap to deal with), it's accurate.
Sometimes to a point I never need to rely on looking at someone in the eye when it came to emotions of others.
Of course, I need to look when looking and gauging at the road.
I don't have dyssemia or any nonverbal processing related issues; else I can be trying hard and still struggle more with it.
And I believe that a good portion of social cues issues amongst autistics is dyssemia -- and dyssemia itself is not necessarily autism, a product of cognitive processing issue related to executive dysfunction or a learning disability such as NVLD, or the lack of social cognitive bridges that gaps alexithymia, and the inexperience from being avoidant through trauma or social anxiety.
It's actually not common for me to see any account that's primarily born from social apathy despite lacking all of the above with all the social opportunities and exposure; one actually defined with finding something else more interesting than socializing.
I only have issues predicting and 'controlling' reactions. The former is definately a double empathy issue, one I work around with sheer amount of data.
The latter likely is not be autism but something I'm hunting down to fix right now.
Oh sure I'm 'lucky' that I got is easy with what I get (self expressing) and what I have to deal with (culture) but I prefer deliberate.
In many eyes tests, it's not the 'feelings' associated with the expressions I have issues with; but lack of words for it and the recollection of those words for such.
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