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AspieUtah
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06 Apr 2016, 9:01 am

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I've never met a person who believes autism is the latest trend...
Oh! Well then, obviously they don't exist! :roll: ... solipcism ...

Fallacy of Appealling to Extremes, Fnord. You have done better. :wink:


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06 Apr 2016, 9:02 am

Did I ever say that it doesn't exist?

Read what I wrote about two-three responses previous to this.



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06 Apr 2016, 9:04 am

AspieUtah wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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I've never met a person who believes autism is the latest trend...
Oh! Well then, obviously they don't exist! :roll: ... solipcism ...
Fallacy of Appealling to Extremes, Fnord. You have done better. :wink:
I know, but I'm just not in the mood right now to construct a formal five-point essay on the fallacy and folly of solipsistic thinking.



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06 Apr 2016, 9:04 am

Is it possible that this poseurs business is mostly a disillusioned American youth piece?
Where I live having an additional needs label is not trendy/fashionable, at all.



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06 Apr 2016, 9:05 am

Fnord wrote:
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Fnord wrote:
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I've never met a person who believes autism is the latest trend...
Oh! Well then, obviously they don't exist! :roll: ... solipcism ...
Fallacy of Appealling to Extremes, Fnord. You have done better. :wink:
I know, but I'm just not in the mood right now to construct a formal five-point essay on the fallacy and folly of solipsistic thinking.

[Applauds] That's better!


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06 Apr 2016, 9:06 am

I don't indulge in solipsistic thinking. I'm very much of this world.



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06 Apr 2016, 9:12 am

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I don't indulge in solipsistic thinking. I'm very much of this world.

Soul lipstick?


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06 Apr 2016, 9:14 am

LOL....in my experience, dark-skinned women of African descent don't usually need lipstick.



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06 Apr 2016, 9:18 am

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LOL....in my experience, dark-skinned women of African descent don't usually need lipstick.

:lol:


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06 Apr 2016, 9:21 am

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bea ... come-from/
According to this article, Kim Peek, who was the inspiration for Rain man:

Toward the end of Peek’s life, Peek showed a marked improvement in his engagement with people. He also began playing the piano, made puns, and even started becoming more self-aware. During one presentation at Oxford University, a woman asked him if he was happy, to which he responded: “I’m happy just to look at you.”



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06 Apr 2016, 9:23 am

Yep....It turned out that Kim Peek wasn't autistic at all.

He was a "prodigious savant," though.



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06 Apr 2016, 9:33 am

BTDT wrote:
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/where-do-savant-skills-come-from/
According to this article, Kim Peek, who was the inspiration for Rain man:

Toward the end of Peek’s life, Peek showed a marked improvement in his engagement with people. He also began playing the piano, made puns, and even started becoming more self-aware. During one presentation at Oxford University, a woman asked him if he was happy, to which he responded: “I’m happy just to look at you.”

I agree. Kim lived about a mile from me, and I often saw him lobbying at the Utah Legislature while I was lobbying. I saw him out and about town frequently. We shared an enjoyment of the same restaurants. He seemed to have learned to enjoy his life since the movie was released. I think that is what showed in his social approach with others.


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06 Apr 2016, 10:02 am

AspieUtah wrote:
No, there needs to be a third way for some autists and their families to come closer to a diagnosis ... even if it means gaining a self identification of autism.


I remember having read the term "self-diagnosed, peer-confirmed" in this forums and found the quote back:

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Meyer and Attwood in the Asperger Syndrome Employment Workbook:

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Every AS person deals with diagnosis and disclosure issues in a unique way. If you are self-diagnosed, your diagnosis should be validated through the comments of other adults with AS. This is called ‘self-diagnosis, peer-confirmed.’ Many self-diagnosed AS adults refrain from diagnosis for as many reasons as there are individuals. (33)


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06 Apr 2016, 10:10 am

That's a good way of looking at it.

Makes lots of sense.



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06 Apr 2016, 10:12 am

Conversely, the peers could easily spot fakers in a heartbeat. Good idea.


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06 Apr 2016, 10:30 am

But, if you have savant skills like Rain man, I think a lot of lay people could be easily fooled.