Is everyone on the spectrum "disabled"?

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02 Jun 2016, 4:59 am

In terms of functioning on daily basis? No.
Independence? Work? Living alone? Yes I can.
Do I have special needs and require specific accommodations to function? No.

Skills? That varies -- Even NTs have to compensate. :roll: On which 'skill' does it count other than basic Social Skills and a pretty face?

If anything, so far I only have annoyances on verbal learning, lack of filter, overall social cluelessness, and short term memory but I wouldn't consider them a disabling.
Missing instincts and low sync rate with the majority doesn't disable me, it just puts me a 'Kick me' sign on my back... Except in my case, it's a 'Schmuck Bait' than an invitation. :twisted: :wink: It's like having hypersensitivity without sensory overload or sensory aids or any coping mechanism.


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02 Jun 2016, 5:14 am

skibum wrote:
BAP does not actually qualify as an ASD.


Depends on your definition of "ASD".

The diagnostic term? Then no.
The "autistic spectrum that merges into normal"? Yes.



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02 Jun 2016, 5:58 am

Oh ok, makes sense now. I did not know there was a part of the Spectrum that merges into normal. Is that what it means to be "a little Autistic" or to have a "touch of Autism"?


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02 Jun 2016, 7:54 am

Rebel_Nowe wrote:
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I honestly thought everyone else is just batsh*t crazy.

IKR? The life of the undiagnosed ausist: WHY ARE THE PEOPLE SO ILLOGICAL ALL OF THE TIME!?


I was like on a mental carousel that went round and round these two exclamations:
1.) "WTF OMG WHY IS EVERYONE SO f*****g STUPID AND ILLOGICAL WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE WOOORLD???!"

2.)"WTF Is wrong with me- why can't/don't/won't I understand what's going on? How on earth... 8O "

Though I do personally have what feels like to myself significant impairments that don't let me do what I would like in work or with others.... I don't consider myself disabled because I can hustle in other ways/I am not homeless just yet! 8)
I think I compensate sometimes well sometimes poorly via my smarts- being inherently a introspective and incessantly thinking/ruminating person... has helped with some barriers. It's all I got to go on so- it is what it is!
Also, I consider this very true: Aspies do not suffer from Aspergers but from people.(For me)



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02 Jun 2016, 8:01 am

I consider myself to be socially disabled. In other regards, however, I manage quite well, so "disabled" wouldn't be the correct terminology.


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02 Jun 2016, 8:12 am

I think yes, now that I know I'm probably on the spectrum. Before, I just considered myself (talking of childhood here, through adulthood I've been more successful) to be a loser, or a freak.

Now, disabled does fit I think. But I think that's a combination of a few things. Mostly culture - recent focus on 'hidden disabilities' in the media, and autism awareness campaigns, and also raising a child in a world where kids with autism have parents that are constantly asking what accommodations are available for them at events and attractions that we attend (which is absolutely fair enough, but does give me the impression the autism is a disability even beyond what I'm going through on a personal level). Then, I think accepting it on a personal level comes from the fact that I recently came to understand why I struggle with basic face-to-face and phone communication, why I didn't fit into the world of employment, and all of those types of things. Those are disabilities. They're things that I 'should' be able to do properly, but can't. It's not that I can't do them at all, but that they cause a lot of distress, and that's definitely what I would consider to be a disability.

That's not to say the label's a bad one. It's freeing to think that there'a a genuine reason for struggling with this stuff.



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02 Jun 2016, 8:40 am

I'm not sure if you mean "disability" in the casual everyday sense or in the legal sense. In terms of the law in the US, this site was very informative. It summarizes the ADA and the EEOC's interpretation of the ADA. See section "E" specifically, which says a diagnosis of ASD is virtually always considered a disability.

http://askjan.org/bulletins/adaaa1.htm#IIIE



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02 Jun 2016, 5:23 pm

skibum wrote:
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Depends on how you define being "on the spectrum" and being "disabled". If by being on the spectrum you mean "is diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder" and by disabled you mean "the condition interferes with functioning in some way", than yes, otherwise, probably not.
Are there other ways to define these terms?


Yes.


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02 Jun 2016, 6:58 pm

No, I don't think of it this way at all. But it might be a matter of degree.



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02 Jun 2016, 7:08 pm

Ganondox wrote:
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Depends on how you define being "on the spectrum" and being "disabled". If by being on the spectrum you mean "is diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder" and by disabled you mean "the condition interferes with functioning in some way", than yes, otherwise, probably not.
Are there other ways to define these terms?


Yes.
I wasn't being sarcastic, I was really asking. Please help me understand.


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02 Jun 2016, 7:46 pm

Sarcasm has never been a fault of yours on WP, Skibum and I love that about you :)



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02 Jun 2016, 8:12 pm

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Sarcasm has never been a fault of yours on WP, Skibum and I love that about you :)
Thank you B19. :D Half the time I can't even tell when people are being sarcastic. :D


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03 Jun 2016, 12:53 pm

No.
unless you count lack of social skills as a disablility. :roll:


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03 Jun 2016, 1:00 pm

JTheBoop wrote:
No.
unless you count lack of social skills as a disablility. :roll:
But Autism is so much more than a lack of social skills.


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03 Jun 2016, 1:17 pm

skibum wrote:
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No.
unless you count lack of social skills as a disablility. :roll:
But Autism is so much more than a lack of social skills.


I know.
I kinda was just being sarcastical, really.


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03 Jun 2016, 1:19 pm

Oh ok, I understand you now. Thanks for clarifying. :D I don't always understand when people are being sarcastic. :D


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