How do I turn my autism into a strength?

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11 Aug 2016, 1:18 am

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Ever since I ended high school in 2011, my life has been mostly idle, no or little contact with peers or the outside world, no education courses, no job, and this is all for the past 5 or 6 years. I turn 25 soon.

So how do I turn my autism spectrum disorder into a success? What's the first step to begin, I'm feeling so overwhelmed and left behind.


Everyone is endorsing community college for you. Does that excite you? Higher ed is not for everyone, and we've seen many young people on this forum get into it and feel overwhelmed and quit.

It's possible you would feel better about things if you found a job that pleased you. "How do I get a job if I have no experience?" is often asked. The usual answer is try volunteering. Think about a setting that appeals to you. If you hate noise, maybe a library? If you love animals or nature, maybe work on a farm? If helping people feels good, there are endless opportunities in agencies that serve people, such as a senior center or food pantry.

The reason I'm suggesting an alternative direction besides college is that some people are very kinesthetic and learn by doing. Lots of times, colleges do not offer multiple approaches to cover all the different learning styles. If you go through the disability office at the college and request accommodations they will usually grant them, but that's a chore to do for each and every class.

So you have a variety of suggestions. Look at each one and try to assign a valence to them (like/dislike). Your personal, individual reaction to each possible path can give you a hunch as to your interests. It's still true that sometimes you can be wrong, and like/hate something much more than you expected, but you have to start somewhere.

Hey good luck, and keep in touch! You have an opportunity here to grow. If you run into a roadblock, pick yourself up and try again. (I've been watching the Olympics, and I so admire the attitude of the athletes - some of whom have overcome very big disadvantages to get where they are, like the American swimmer (female) who medaled even though she has Crohn's disease.)


I completely agree with you. That was why I never wanted to go to college since high school. I learn by doing as well by teaching my self. That's why I hated school and started getting bad grades in high school. I learn on my own and the school lessons were going to slow for me. Plus I always ended up knowing more than my teacher. Im an autodidact.

Before thinking about going to the military I was thinking about doing some type of internship or vocational school where you just learn by doing it. No taking classes especially ones that have nothing to do with the degree your going for.

College isn't for everyone and I wish society would stop saying it is because that can actually ruin someones life or just make them unhappy. I wish they would teach them that theres other possibilities besides college.



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11 Aug 2016, 5:50 am

We, in the US, place too much emphasis on academic college. We should develop a better vocational education system.

The "hands-on" type of vocational schools, like Apex Tech, sometimes seem to be total ripoffs.

If you maintain a "C" average going to college for 120 credits, you get a Bachelor's. These days, most professors seem to give "C's" just for showing up to class.



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11 Aug 2016, 7:00 am

You could use hyperfocusing to your advantage. Like I do at school.
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12 Aug 2016, 3:01 am

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This is completely not true. You can make money off of Pokemon or any other childish stuff. When theres a will theres a will. You can completely make money off anime or any other childish thing if you're creative and passionate about.


Well, then do it. Or grow the f**k up and focus on something that many people want. Pokemon right now is a trend, like with so many other games. It will be dead within 5 years and being a pokemon trainer is not a viable career, and making your own characters is unlikely to succeed. Focus on getting a real job instead! Stop dreaming.


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Agreed. A special interest isn't something you can just drop at the tip of a hat, and it's not something you can just pick up because you're like "I should do this because I can make money at it". Developing a special interest is more or less something that "just happens".


No, it does not "just happen", it's a LIFELONG thing. Unless you excel at anything, regardless of having a diagnosis or not, you wont succeed. You have already given up so why do you even bother to write in this thread?


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If you know how to actually do this, please let me know. I'm intrigued.


For me it started with computers when i was young (Got an Vic 20 in 1983). I spend 24/7 learning about them. At first i did not care about the world around me, but then i started reading about computers, taking part in discussions, talking about how bad things were. Then i realised that "hey, i can write code for that and fix it or make something better".

While this is not an academic credential in itself, it IS something i could show to a recruiter and it did land me a job. This is like artists bringing drawings and sketches to an art agency. I do not know what you are good at and your strengths and weaknesses so you have to figure out for yourself how to do this in your situation.

That kind of stuff can weigh more than some useless certificates circulating that people actually can BUY or have really simple questions that just requires you to pay attention during the course and do very little thinking of your own.


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12 Aug 2016, 5:19 am

I bet every kid wants to be a Pokemon trainer. Competition is fierce. Better to obtain a marketable skill, like plumbing. Everybody needs a plumber at one time or another.

You're just about guaranteed a job if you go for something like plumbing, and especially nursing.

Being a Pokemon trainer has no such guarantees. People don't need Pokemon trainers in the middle of the night, like they do plumbers and nurses.



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12 Aug 2016, 5:24 am

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I bet every kid wants to be a Pokemon trainer. Competition is fierce. Better to obtain a marketable skill, like plumbing. Everybody needs a plumber at one time or another.

You're just about guaranteed a job if you go for something like plumbing, and especially nursing.

Being a Pokemon trainer has no such guarantees. People don't need Pokemon trainers in the middle of the night, like they do plumbers and nurses.


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12 Aug 2016, 5:51 am

Ichinin wrote:
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This is completely not true. You can make money off of Pokemon or any other childish stuff. When theres a will theres a will. You can completely make money off anime or any other childish thing if you're creative and passionate about.


Well, then do it. Or grow the f**k up and focus on something that many people want. Pokemon right now is a trend, like with so many other games. It will be dead within 5 years and being a pokemon trainer is not a viable career, and making your own characters is unlikely to succeed. Focus on getting a real job instead! Stop dreaming.


mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Agreed. A special interest isn't something you can just drop at the tip of a hat, and it's not something you can just pick up because you're like "I should do this because I can make money at it". Developing a special interest is more or less something that "just happens".


No, it does not "just happen", it's a LIFELONG thing. Unless you excel at anything, regardless of having a diagnosis or not, you wont succeed. You have already given up so why do you even bother to write in this thread?


AJisHere wrote:
If you know how to actually do this, please let me know. I'm intrigued.


For me it started with computers when i was young (Got an Vic 20 in 1983). I spend 24/7 learning about them. At first i did not care about the world around me, but then i started reading about computers, taking part in discussions, talking about how bad things were. Then i realised that "hey, i can write code for that and fix it or make something better".

While this is not an academic credential in itself, it IS something i could show to a recruiter and it did land me a job. This is like artists bringing drawings and sketches to an art agency. I do not know what you are good at and your strengths and weaknesses so you have to figure out for yourself how to do this in your situation.

That kind of stuff can weigh more than some useless certificates circulating that people actually can BUY or have really simple questions that just requires you to pay attention during the course and do very little thinking of your own.



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12 Aug 2016, 6:22 am

Sorry my comment got lost due to bad internet connection up here in the mountains. But like I was saying I'm not trying to attack you so no need to be offensive. Pokemon isn't my special interests so I'm not going to be pursuing it. But yes you can make a lot of money off Pokemon. Look at the guy with Pokemon go. Like I said earlier I have friends who make a good living off of anime where they done need a regular job. All they do is maintain their blog, YouTube account, Instagram, and merchandise.

My special interest is traveling and that's what I'm currently doing right now traveling the world as well as setting up my blog and soon YouTube account. My Instagram is growing and I've already been requested to speak in a small traveling convention.

I've read your other comments on other posts on wrong planet and you give good advice and you seem the same like me. I had the same view point until recently where I learned there's other ways to be successful and you can make anything you like into a success as long as your willing to work for it and have an entrepreneur spirit.

I'm not trying to be offensive but informational. The conventional way doesn't work for me as well as other people. The unconventional way and entrepreneur way is more my style especially and works well with my Aspieness. Not saying what you're saying is wrong I'm just saying there's other ways that people don't teach or know about. What you say works for some people and what I'm saying works for other people. People should know both ways and not just one and then go from there. I hope you understand what I'm saying.



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12 Aug 2016, 7:59 am

Ichinin wrote:
Gematron wrote:
This is completely not true. You can make money off of Pokemon or any other childish stuff. When theres a will theres a will. You can completely make money off anime or any other childish thing if you're creative and passionate about.


Well, then do it. Or grow the f**k up and focus on something that many people want. Pokemon right now is a trend, like with so many other games. It will be dead within 5 years and being a pokemon trainer is not a viable career, and making your own characters is unlikely to succeed. Focus on getting a real job instead! Stop dreaming.


mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
Agreed. A special interest isn't something you can just drop at the tip of a hat, and it's not something you can just pick up because you're like "I should do this because I can make money at it". Developing a special interest is more or less something that "just happens".


No, it does not "just happen", it's a LIFELONG thing. Unless you excel at anything, regardless of having a diagnosis or not, you wont succeed. You have already given up so why do you even bother to write in this thread?

OK well maybe YOU can choose your special interests, but it doesn't work that way for everyone else. If you can, then great! But otherwise, I don't think most of necessarily us "choose" the things we develop an interest in. I can't say it's the same for everyone, since we're all different. If I implied that before, then it's an error on my part.

Also, I feel like this needs to be said again;

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[“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”
-C.S. Lewis

But seriously, few things infuriate me more than beiong told to "grow up". Ugh.

EDIT: I know there's a lot of piss and vinegar in this post, and I probably should've thought twice about posting it. But my point still stands


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12 Aug 2016, 8:43 am

The best way to learn things is to teach yourself. First, find out how you learn things best. Is it by reading? Then read tons of books, anything that strikes your fancy.

Is it Youtube videos? Watch guys like Khan Academy, or other educational fellas, or MIT Opencourseware.

Is it in person? Then ask your friends or whoever you may know to show you things and give you a chance to try things out. Maybe at your workplace, ask to try out new things.

Maybe one more multiple methods work best for you. Maybe it's a completely different method wholly unique to yourself. But when it comes down to it, it's all about trying things out, seeing what works, what doesn't.

and then, when you hit upon things that work for you, start off by practicing and using those skills in a low-risk environment. Wanna learn how to slice a Tomato like a master chef, without cutting off your fingers? Start with a plastic knife. Want to be a musical composer? start off with freeware, put up your early projects for free, and accept constructive criticism.

I believe that you have what it takes to do well. Most importantly, always bet on yourself. Always.

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12 Aug 2016, 10:30 am

Ichinin wrote:
For me it started with computers when i was young (Got an Vic 20 in 1983). I spend 24/7 learning about them. At first i did not care about the world around me, but then i started reading about computers, taking part in discussions, talking about how bad things were. Then i realised that "hey, i can write code for that and fix it or make something better".

While this is not an academic credential in itself, it IS something i could show to a recruiter and it did land me a job. This is like artists bringing drawings and sketches to an art agency. I do not know what you are good at and your strengths and weaknesses so you have to figure out for yourself how to do this in your situation.

That kind of stuff can weigh more than some useless certificates circulating that people actually can BUY or have really simple questions that just requires you to pay attention during the course and do very little thinking of your own.


That doesn't sound like you chose it though. It just happened that way. I'd love to be able to choose a special interest. It would make the prospect of having one again less terrifying.


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13 Aug 2016, 3:25 am

AJisHere wrote:
Ichinin wrote:
For me it started with computers when i was young (Got an Vic 20 in 1983). I spend 24/7 learning about them. At first i did not care about the world around me, but then i started reading about computers, taking part in discussions, talking about how bad things were. Then i realised that "hey, i can write code for that and fix it or make something better".

While this is not an academic credential in itself, it IS something i could show to a recruiter and it did land me a job. This is like artists bringing drawings and sketches to an art agency. I do not know what you are good at and your strengths and weaknesses so you have to figure out for yourself how to do this in your situation.

That kind of stuff can weigh more than some useless certificates circulating that people actually can BUY or have really simple questions that just requires you to pay attention during the course and do very little thinking of your own.


That doesn't sound like you chose it though. It just happened that way. I'd love to be able to choose a special interest. It would make the prospect of having one again less terrifying.

Amen, brother.


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14 Aug 2016, 3:02 pm

If you are further over on the spectrum, you should have an eye for detail, if you don't spend your life self-loathing. Use that as a strength.