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16 Oct 2016, 1:08 pm

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I don't think anyone could "get" dyslexia, you're either born with it or you're not. If you do happen to be born with it you're stuck with it for the rest of your life, although, as with autism, some people do develop coping strategies. Nevertheless, coping strategies or not, it's still not a bundle of laughs that you'd wish your offspring to have if it could be avoided. It probably doesn't quite fit into the Blonde Aryan Superman eugenics of sperm banks anyway.


I read that some people do grow out of it.


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16 Oct 2016, 1:10 pm

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The more we level the playing field for people with disabilities, the less disabled they'll be in society.

I don't know what the answer to this is but, if the playing field is leveled are we losing quality (because we are not favouring the people with the most potential,) or are we opening opportunities for new ways of seeing (by supporting those who society does not currently favour?)



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16 Oct 2016, 1:18 pm

That depends on how we level the playing field. I was thinking more about helping people compensate for their disabilities. Society levels the playing field with technology, workplace accommodations, different educational styles, medications, ETC. Then, there are also all the ways that people with disabilities can help others in similar situations.



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16 Oct 2016, 1:21 pm

My husband thinks our son could be dyslexic but too soon to tell. Time will tell soon when he gets older and kids are actually required to read and do their school work and turn it in. My son won't do any written assignments and he barely does any and it was always hard getting him to practice writing numbers and letters by himself. Right now they are just being given worksheets but they are not graded or nor is it really school work. If he does turn out to have it, then we can have his IEP catagory changed from ASD to specific learning disorder for his learning.

He is very creative and he is visual as I have read about dyslexics. My son just avoids anything with spelling and words and prefers visual things like TV or video games or playing with Legos.


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16 Oct 2016, 2:29 pm

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It creates a different way of seeing the world. The reason dyslexics have such a hard time reading is because they see everything in three dimensions, rotating images in their minds and constructing excellent mental replicas of things. It is this three dimensional rotation which causes them to jumble up the letters of words. This unique thought process can make people very creative, and incredible with directions. My mom and my sister are both dyslexic, and they have amazing navigational skills. My sister was helping my grandma navigate to places she'd only been to once by the time she was five. My mom and my sister are both amazing artists too; my mom teaches a painting class at a studio in town, and my sister can perfectly recreate images, even people which are extremely difficult, just by looking at a picture. I don't think either of them would be able to do this if they weren't dyslexic.


I have severe dyslexia and I do not see three dimentional rotating image sinside my mind. I have aphantasia and I see nothing at all inside my mind, unless I'm asleep and dreaming. The reason I found it hard to read and write is because the words and letters moved around on the paper, like little black tadpoles, so that letters like bdhgp all looked exactly the same, as did letters like ftj. I was a pretty decent artist but only if the subject was present or I was using a photograph to work from, so essentially all I was doing was copying a visual image onto paper or canvas. Often I'd copy old photographs for people but on many occasions the imagery I was copying meant absolutely nothing to me, I didn't understand what i was drawing but that didn't prevent me from faithfully reproduced it. I can find my way to anywhere, without ever having been there previously, people often think that I have an inate sense of direction but it's far simpler than that. It's just a matter of basic geography combined with common sense. If, like me, you live in Liverpool and wished to drive to somewhere in Scotland you should know, thanks to basic geography, that you need to head north, you don't need a map or sat nav for that, as you get closer to your chosen location you use common sense and simply follow signs. It works every time, I never get lost.


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16 Oct 2016, 5:03 pm

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If you don't have mutations, you don't have evolution. End of story.

In order for a species to survive, they have to develop coping mechanisms. Some of them involve things which might seem "pathological" at first glance.

Incorrect. Evolution merely requires heritability, variation, and selective pressure. Mutations help generate new variation but if there is variation in the starting population then you don't need mutation for evolution.

The second half is frankly a just-so story.

It is sometimes beneficial to encourage variation (such as by having a high mutation rate) knowing that it will compromise individual fitness but might help group fitness.



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16 Oct 2016, 5:11 pm

Without mutations, evolution can only go so far before stopping completely, because the variation in the gene pool will decrease over time as more and more genes are wiped out by natural selection.


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16 Oct 2016, 8:52 pm

Its because they think they won't be able to sell it. Honestly, if I ever need to use spare zygotes, I would probably avoid loading the kids' genetic dice with another learning disability, in addition to mine. If you're buying, you're going to want get the highest quality you can get.



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16 Oct 2016, 9:03 pm

Mutation is a great aid in adjusting to changing conditions--especially if they are especially sudden.



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17 Oct 2016, 5:50 am

Yeah...that's "just so"---so what?



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17 Oct 2016, 7:41 am

I think after http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /89825220/ they are going to be extra cautious about who they allow to donate sperm.



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17 Oct 2016, 7:52 am

I am not dyslexic as in jumbling up letters but I am bad at navigating my way around/sense of direction. I have heard this variously called directional/geographical/spatial dyslexia.

In the diagnosed with category: paranoid personality disorder

In the possibly have category: Aspergers, NVLD, directional dyslexia, dyspraxia.

In the almost certainly have category: Aphantasia(I can't visualise with my mind's eye at all)

It's odds on certain I'd fail the sperm bank test.



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17 Oct 2016, 9:04 am

Dyslexia is a poor excuse to disqualify somebody.

So is autism, by the way.

Some of our greatest historical figures have been dyslexic.

Nelson Rockefeller, for one, had to read his speeches in very large print.



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17 Oct 2016, 9:58 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Dyslexia is a poor excuse to disqualify somebody.

So is autism, by the way.



How much is it reckoned that they can be passed on,ie how much does genetics play a part?



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17 Oct 2016, 10:15 am

The precise answer, probably, will be elusive for a long time.

Dyslexia is really "passed along" in an inconsistent way.

So is autism, really.

Both can, easily, arise randomly, without any genetic material directly from the parents at all.



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17 Oct 2016, 11:14 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Dyslexia is a poor excuse to disqualify somebody.

So is autism, by the way.

Some of our greatest historical figures have been dyslexic.

Nelson Rockefeller, for one, had to read his speeches in very large print.


Wikipedia list of people diagnosed with dyslexia


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