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11 May 2007, 5:01 pm

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why are there so many self dignosed attention whores its obvous that you have a asd because of all the BS you say about not wanting to be cured if you actuly had aspergers you would want to be cured being a social ret*d with a low iq isnt somthing to be proud of you dont have anthing wrong with you your just a geek with bad social skills and no emotions you read the dsm and think you have aspergers because we have bad social skills but you dont have aspergers i have the real disese i wish i was cured unlike you i also have emotions and feelings i just struggle to express them if you all had aspergers ud have no friends be a soicial ret*d
fail at school be unable to concentrate for more than 2 seconds never have a girlfriend be unable to spell for sh** useless at maths
have evryone hate you and be a all round spazz the worst part is you actualy say stuff that could make my life worse like saying that people with aspergers like being alone i hate being alone and theres more but im to stupid to remember what becaus i have aspergers syndrom and im not proud of it i hate it i hate being special i wish i was normal i hope they make the prenatal test i wish i hadnt been born only people with autism and aspergers will be aborted and we want to be none of you would be aborted because your not autistic


Your post is FULL of non sequitors! You can NOT have a low IQ because of AS! AS REQUIRES an average or higher IQ! I am NOT attracting attention. NO WAY, NO HOW! OK, I AM a "social ret*d", and I wouldn't mind THAT being cured. BTW AS IS an ASD!! !! ALSO, I DO have emotions. OK, I wasn't great at math(I'm getting better because I finally decided to teach MYSELF, and found tricks that weren't taught in school)!(BTW I'm talking about doing longer math mentally, with no pen/pencil, paper, etc... When I was a young kid, I don't even think claculators existed. I still remember the first calculator I bought around 1971 that had an LED display, etc...) I WAS good at almost everything else I cared to be though! BTW I'm sorry to hear you got such an IDIOT for a doctor! Please change your name to something meaningful.

Steve



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11 May 2007, 5:26 pm

aspie17 is a troll who cannot spell. Someone BAN him!


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11 May 2007, 5:27 pm

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why are there so many self dignosed attention whores its obvous that you have a asd because of all the BS you say about not wanting to be cured if you actuly had aspergers you would want to be cured being a social ret*d with a low iq isnt somthing to be proud of you dont have anthing wrong with you your just a geek with bad social skills and no emotions you read the dsm and think you have aspergers because we have bad social skills but you dont have aspergers i have the real disese i wish i was cured unlike you i also have emotions and feelings i just struggle to express them if you all had aspergers ud have no friends be a soicial ret*d
fail at school be unable to concentrate for more than 2 seconds never have a girlfriend be unable to spell for sh** useless at maths
have evryone hate you and be a all round spazz the worst part is you actualy say stuff that could make my life worse like saying that people with aspergers like being alone i hate being alone and theres more but im to stupid to remember what becaus i have aspergers syndrom and im not proud of it i hate it i hate being special i wish i was normal i hope they make the prenatal test i wish i hadnt been born only people with autism and aspergers will be aborted and we want to be none of you would be aborted because your not autistic


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11 May 2007, 5:28 pm

ChrissandraChrissamba wrote:
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Sopho wrote:
I've been diagnosed and I don't want a 'cure.' Also, I don't have a low IQ.


you dont realy have aspergers your obsessive with bad social skills that are probly you own fault


I don't think you really have Asperger's, either. In case you haven't heard, there's a new diagnosis which you might fit just perfectly. It's called Hitler's syndrome:

Symptoms of Hitler's syndrome include:
1. Sheer denial to admit to being a worthless idiot.
2. Being a worthless idiot.
3. Calling anyone who is not a worthless idiot, a "worthless idiot".
4. Feelings of superiority about being a boring, dull, "normal", uncreative, prejudice, ignorant, worthless idiot, simply because they are not critisized for being one.
5. Failing to realize that any attempts to critize them would be a failure because they got kicked out of school before they learned the meaning of "idiot".
6. Failing to realize that they are not being critized because no one wants to come within twenty miles of them for fear of breathing in a whiff of the idiot germ.
7. Failing to realize that all the praise they get is worthless as it comes from all their fellow worthless idiot friends.
8. Scoring 200+ on an I.Q test (Ignorance Quotient test).
DSM-IV diagnostic criteria:
- failure adequately to use eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture and gesture to regulate social interaction, preferring instead to threaten, bribe, and physically force others into interacting with them.
- rarely seeking and using other people for comfort and affection at times of stress or distress and/or offering comfort and affection to others when they are showing distress or unhappiness, preferring instead to use other people as punching bags.
- Exceptional success at developing peer relationships, due to the depressingly high prevalence of other worthless idiots to be friends with.
-lack of shared enjoyment in terms of vicarious pleasure in other peoples' happiness, instead becoming extremely envious and spontaneously insulting and hurting others.
-lack of socio-emotional reciprocity, such as taking pleasure in other people's misfortunes.
-encompassing preoccupation with stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest, such as themselves, Hitler, or George Bush.
-stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms, such as punching, kicking, or pushing.
If you fear your child may suffer from Hitler's syndrome, here are some warning signs to look out for:
-shows early signs of stupidity.
-abnormal speech development, such as echolalia of curse words and/or palilalia of verbal insults directed at others.
-diagnosis of mental retardation.
-dreams of attaining a place in the government.
-admiration of certain individuals, such as Suddam Hussein and/or Osama bin Laden.
-applies for a seat in government.
-obtains a seat in government.
-has the surname of Bush.


HEY!! !


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11 May 2007, 5:31 pm

Aspie_for_the_Lord wrote:
actually, it is a well documented fact that those on the Autistic Spectrum with Aspergers Syndrome have above average IQ's... the Autistic Spectrum disorder with low IQ is known as Kanners Syndrome, they have an average IQ of 90....

who knows? maybe you have Kanners Syndrome?

all i know is that after many years of problems, i was medically diagnosed with Aspergers by experts in the field, and once i recieved the support, my life got a whole lot better... whether of not i have Aspergers, the diagnosis and support seems to have done the trick... but it is more logical to say that if the support for Aspergers syndrome actually helped me, then it is likely what i have...

i didnt know anything about it until the eggheads checking me out told me about it...

go figure...

i suspect you to be a Troll, but it is equally likely that you are just a misdiagnosed kanners Sydrome with anger issues...

what ever the case... if you are willing to be nice to us, we will be nice to you, take it or leave it......

:D

Welcome to WP, i hope your stay is a pleasant one


actually, the criteria for AS specificallys says IQ can vary from normal (100) and above. you don't have to be super smart to have AS... the opposite is not true however...


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11 May 2007, 6:11 pm

Oh boy. I left my troll repellent in the car so I'll just have to do. :roll:

Um, aspie12...69, or whatever, don't you have anything better to do than harassing people on the internets? Go clean your room or do your homework, heck do something more productive than wasting our bandwidth.


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11 May 2007, 6:32 pm

I'm wondering if this is the same guy from Australia who came on here bashing aspies before. He said something to the effect of aspies "deserving to be put in concentration camps".
At either rate, he's a troll. This is what I think might be happening. "Aspie17" isn't aspie at all, likely he's just a run of the mill ignorant NT pretending to be aspie in order to try and bully us online (because he damn well knows he couldn't do it in person because we'd f--- his @$$ up bad). Chances are he doesn't have a dx because he's not aspie and he hasn't even been to a counselor, chances are he's just like any other jock NT snob that snubs us in school.
Oh by the way, my math skills suck too. So I guess I'm sorry I'm not enough of a rain man for you "aspie" :evil: Any other stereotypes you wanna dispel?



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11 May 2007, 6:52 pm

This post really hurt my feelings. I don't have a low IQ; that's not part of AS. Sometimes I do wish it could be cured, and sometimes I don't.

The only thing I don't understand is why you're so angry that someone would self-diagnose. Does it make you feel less special if there are more of us out there? Like you have less of an excuse for being (in your own eyes) sub-par, if there are lots of people out there with AS? I don't know what your situation is like, but I'll bet that some of us who are self-diagnosed are coping with life better than you, but some of us are coping with life worse.

I think you should try to remember that AS is not a disease. It's a part of who a person is; it's a part of a person's brain. As such, its effects are completely unique for everyone. Everyone has different symptoms, everyone has it with a different severity, and everyone copes with it differently throughout life. Just because someone isn't exactly like you, doesn't mean they don't have AS. People who are self-diagnosed with AS- and many of us DO have AS- sometimes have struggles with it that you might not have.

Most of all, I want to know what you think makes you qualified to say that I am not on the autistic spectrum. It seems to me that I would know a whole lot better than you would.



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11 May 2007, 6:54 pm

OK, I stand corrected. It's far more entertaining watching the people on this forum slice and dice this guy than to merely ignore him.


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11 May 2007, 6:57 pm

guy sounded like he was havin a bad day... just let it go

and why are ppl acusing him of being NT anyway?


make up your minds... all you professional DXers.....


are people poseurs cause they're too high functioning and don't want a cure and blab all about their insecurities (which pale in comparision to LFA issues, blah blah blah)?

or are they poseurs when they admit to having too many problems/ insecurities and not being able to compete with the "-HFA-aspie-fakers?"

seems like you can't win whether you have a DX or not. these forums aren't designed for us to take up arms in the DXing race... it's for support... and yes people moan and groan... everyone does. i'm tired of people thinking they can deduce someone's neurotypical state just by reading their posts.

jeebs.

lame.

i'm goin back to work.............. later


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11 May 2007, 6:59 pm

It occurs to me that if you think you are that much different from the rest of us here, then maybe YOU are the one who doesn't have AS, or has something besides AS. An unidentified co-morbid. Doctors make mistakes, you know. Is that possible?



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11 May 2007, 7:03 pm

i'm sorry you are lijke this obsously you need some help from somebody and you are looking for attention.

let me point out to some people here 2 wrongs don't make a right. what i'm saying is that it's no piont being bad back to this person. you guys should try reverse psyolociagaty. maybe he has never have had someone say something nice to him. this does work because i have used this theory on people i know. you never know just try.

anyway someone with AS can have have a low IQ, especially when your AS has not been picked up in your young years of life. I've worked that out because I have AS, Dyspraxia, and Dyslexia which is also on the spectrum. i wasn't picked yp at school s there for my teachers did not understand why I was always switching of in class. which made my IQ lower. but you can change that if you have a positie attutide towards yourself and others. when you get the apppropriate help.

Like it says in the Bible if you can't love yourself how can you love others. in order to love others you have to love yourself first.



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11 May 2007, 7:05 pm

I'm of the opinion that this is an honest statement,
and NOT a matter of some sort of trolling. I think
aspie17 has some real difficulties, and those of
you who are just taking offense at the nature of
some of his statements should probably lay off.



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11 May 2007, 7:09 pm

aspie17 wrote:
why are there so many self dignosed attention whores its obvous that you have a asd because of all the BS you say about not wanting to be cured if you actuly had aspergers you would want to be cured being a social ret*d with a low iq isnt somthing to be proud of you dont have anthing wrong with you your just a geek with bad social skills and no emotions you read the dsm and think you have aspergers because we have bad social skills but you dont have aspergers i have the real disese i wish i was cured unlike you i also have emotions and feelings i just struggle to express them if you all had aspergers ud have no friends be a soicial ret*d
fail at school be unable to concentrate for more than 2 seconds never have a girlfriend be unable to spell for sh** useless at maths
have evryone hate you and be a all round spazz the worst part is you actualy say stuff that could make my life worse like saying that people with aspergers like being alone i hate being alone and theres more but im to stupid to remember what becaus i have aspergers syndrom and im not proud of it i hate it i hate being special i wish i was normal i hope they make the prenatal test i wish i hadnt been born only people with autism and aspergers will be aborted and we want to be none of you would be aborted because your not autistic


What?



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11 May 2007, 7:10 pm

calandale wrote:
I'm of the opinion that this is an honest statement,
and NOT a matter of some sort of trolling. I think
aspie17 has some real difficulties, and those of
you who are just taking offense at the nature of
some of his statements should probably lay off.

Maybe...
It just seemed pretty extreme though when I initially read it: 'ret*d,' 'spazz,' 'disease,' abortions etc.



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11 May 2007, 7:11 pm

Yeah, but I just don't see it. True, it's POSSIBLE it was a sincere post, but it doesn't ring true.


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