Are you "okay" with having Asperger's?

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28 Dec 2016, 10:25 pm

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I prefer to think of autism as a cognitive disorder rather than a mental illness.


Yes, their choice of words annoyed me also.


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I do not like how my autism inhibits and impairs me.


I can understand. How does that balance with any advantages you have because of it?

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I know I am different from others. I like some aspects of Asperger's, but not others. I like that I can generally express myself well in writing and that I can research any topic of interest to me thoroughly. I don't like anxiety, social awkwardness and doing stupid stuff.


Yup, same on all that. My impulsiveness is usually my stupid stuff. It's emphasised because it's against a background of comparable inhibition.


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28 Dec 2016, 10:35 pm

Autism is not a mental illness. It's classified as a developmental disorder. That means that it affects how our intellect developed. It's not about emotional balance.

Just in case anyone was confused by the OP. I don't think that was addressed yet.



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28 Dec 2016, 10:37 pm

Well, first of all, I am very sorry you were told you have a mental "illness." Aspergers is a difference, but to call it an "illness" just shows how inconsistent our modern "tolerance" crowd really is when it comes to differences they don't happen to personally and subjectively "like." My goodness. There is no scientific objectivity whatsoever for anyone to claim such a thing.

As for the main part of the question...I'm sort of ok with it. I understand I have it, and there are benefits and drawbacks to it, like just about anything else. There are times, socially, and with executive functions etc., where I wish I didn't have it. But other than that, I'm ok with it. It has its benefits, too, like being more detailed and analytic with special interests. I can see things others can't see as readily.



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28 Dec 2016, 10:38 pm

IstominFan wrote:
I know I am different from others. I like some aspects of Asperger's, but not others. I like that I can generally express myself well in writing and that I can research any topic of interest to me thoroughly. I don't like anxiety, social awkwardness and doing stupid stuff.


Yes. I have gotten many compliments for expressing myself well in writing and for being thorough in my research. Those definitely are not traits of someone with "mental illness," but they are common in us Aspies.



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28 Dec 2016, 10:47 pm

Yes I must emphasise that Asperger's is not a mental illness, I was directly quoting how the question was put to me, warts and all, by a bit of an idiot.

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As for the main part of the question...I'm sort of ok with it. I understand I have it, and there are benefits and drawbacks to it, like just about anything else. There are times, socially, and with executive functions etc., where I wish I didn't have it. But other than that, I'm ok with it. It has its benefits, too, like being more detailed and analytic with special interests. I can see things others can't see as readily.


Another great response, thank you kdm1984 =]


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28 Dec 2016, 10:51 pm

voidnull wrote:
Yes I must emphasise that Asperger's is not a mental illness, I was directly quoting how the question was put to me, warts and all, by a bit of an idiot.

kdm1984 wrote:
As for the main part of the question...I'm sort of ok with it. I understand I have it, and there are benefits and drawbacks to it, like just about anything else. There are times, socially, and with executive functions etc., where I wish I didn't have it. But other than that, I'm ok with it. It has its benefits, too, like being more detailed and analytic with special interests. I can see things others can't see as readily.


Another great response, thank you kdm1984 =]


thx :)



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28 Dec 2016, 11:00 pm

kdm1984 wrote:
Yes. I have gotten many compliments for expressing myself well in writing and for being thorough in my research. Those definitely are not traits of someone with "mental illness," but they are common in us Aspies.


To be fair, there are people with bipolar disorder who demonstrate excellent writing skills and research ability, and that's a mental illness (which I've been diagnosed with as well). Having both bipolar and autism, I struggle to understand why one is a 'mental illness' and the other a 'developmental disorder' - but in my case I would have to say that my autistic symptoms are far more disabling than my bipolar ones.

(Not trying to be argumentative - just trying to understand the difference in terms!)



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29 Dec 2016, 5:28 am

I'm glad to know that I have it because it explains everything, but am I okay about it? No, not really. It's made everything so difficult and I can't come up with many positives.



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29 Dec 2016, 6:00 am

Yes. :lol:
I have long accepted it's advantages and drawbacks, it's privileges and consequences.
Even better -- that I don't cope with, by, or because of it anymore.


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29 Dec 2016, 6:13 am

I find out if I have it two weeks from today.
Secretly, though this is the first time I've shared it, I kind of hope that I do becasue it would explain so much of what has been wrong in my life. I'm actually more worried that the specialist I'm going to see will say that I'm NT.
But I am happy with who I am. Things have been very difficult for me at times, particularly when I was young, but my experiences have made me the person that I am, and they have made me stronger and more compassionate towards others.
If it turns out I do have it, it will be very interesting to find out which parts of me are affected and how, and learn new ways of dealing with it.


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29 Dec 2016, 7:00 am

I've often thought about this.

I am certainly OK with having a diagnosis because it explains so much that is different and weird in me and gives me some good pointers on how to manage myself better.

When I think about the possibility of not being on the spectrum I think about no longer being blind to all of that social stuff which I know is out there but which I don't see. This thought worries me rather than excites me. I feel afraid of being overwhelmed with information in just the same way as I get overwhemled with sound and touch and I feel sick at the thought of it.

However, I'm beginning to get the feeling that a lot of the misunderstandings I have in communication are due to my use of context. Basically I always have the same context - 'life, the universe and everything' (to quote Douglas Adams). Because of this I don't pick up more refined contextual information and so struggle to communicate unless precise clear language is used. So if part of autism is about defaulting to a universal context for all information and not being good at grouping information and knowing what you can ignore, then if I didn't have that anymore maybe I wouldn't be overloaded by the social stuff becoming clear to me? It's so hard to know the answer to this question without knowing what it's like not to be on the spectrum. Also, there is a fear that since I am autistic if I didn't have it would my actual self be lost?

Hmmm, so I guess my answer is that I'm kind of OK with it because I don't know what other options there might be.
I'm definitiely not OK with having sound / touch synesthesia and sensitivities due to this. I find this part of ASD v hard to manage.


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29 Dec 2016, 7:09 am

Morning all. Thank you very much for your responses. I'm still bleary eyed and uncaffeinated but shall stumble through some replies:

Ashariel wrote:
To be fair, there are people with bipolar disorder who demonstrate excellent writing skills and research ability, and that's a mental illness (which I've been diagnosed with as well). Having both bipolar and autism, I struggle to understand why one is a 'mental illness' and the other a 'developmental disorder' - but in my case I would have to say that my autistic symptoms are far more disabling than my bipolar ones.


That is a damned good point. I assumed bipolar only let it's presence known at certain times, whereas autism affects how we interpret what our senses are telling us all the time. Again, I do not see Asperger's as a disorder, an illness or even a negative; but I have had quite an extreme life, seemingly with many "good" symptoms of Asperger's and few of the bad. The bad are definitely there, but I'd clawed my way to relative success before I was diagnosed. The piece of paper simply explained why I work the way I do. Thank you very much for a great response, Ashariel.

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I'm glad to know that I have it because it explains everything, but am I okay about it? No, not really. It's made everything so difficult and I can't come up with many positives.


I'm sorry to hear that mate. Thank you for your honest response. I hope you find your secret Aspie power and kick this planet's ass.

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Yes. :lol:
I have long accepted it's advantages and drawbacks, it's privileges and consequences.
Even better -- that I don't cope with, by, or because of it anymore.


Music to my ears dude. Thank you for your reply =]

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I find out if I have it two weeks from today.
Secretly, though this is the first time I've shared it, I kind of hope that I do becasue it would explain so much of what has been wrong in my life. I'm actually more worried that the specialist I'm going to see will say that I'm NT.
But I am happy with who I am. Things have been very difficult for me at times, particularly when I was young, but my experiences have made me the person that I am, and they have made me stronger and more compassionate towards others.
If it turns out I do have it, it will be very interesting to find out which parts of me are affected and how, and learn new ways of dealing with it.


I was diagnosed a year ago today =] The last year has been exactly what you predict; Realising what parts of me were directly the result of the condition, and which weren't. It's been an amazing year and it keeps getting better. I hope you have it =] When the psychiatrist told me I jumped out of the chair and punched the air then hugged her and told her she was beautiful and thanked her through happy tears that didn't stop until I got home. Thank you very much for your response mate.


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29 Dec 2016, 7:18 am

Jo_B1_Kenobi wrote:
I've often thought about this.

I am certainly OK with having a diagnosis because it explains so much that is different and weird in me and gives me some good pointers on how to manage myself better.

When I think about the possibility of not being on the spectrum I think about no longer being blind to all of that social stuff which I know is out there but which I don't see. This thought worries me rather than excites me. I feel afraid of being overwhelmed with information in just the same way as I get overwhemled with sound and touch and I feel sick at the thought of it.

However, I'm beginning to get the feeling that a lot of the misunderstandings I have in communication are due to my use of context. Basically I always have the same context - 'life, the universe and everything' (to quote Douglas Adams). Because of this I don't pick up more refined contextual information and so struggle to communicate unless precise clear language is used. So if part of autism is about defaulting to a universal context for all information and not being good at grouping information and knowing what you can ignore, then if I didn't have that anymore maybe I wouldn't be overloaded by the social stuff becoming clear to me? It's so hard to know the answer to this question without knowing what it's like not to be on the spectrum. Also, there is a fear that since I am autistic if I didn't have it would my actual self be lost?

Hmmm, so I guess my answer is that I'm kind of OK with it because I don't know what other options there might be.
I'm definitiely not OK with having sound / touch synesthesia and sensitivities due to this. I find this part of ASD v hard to manage.


That's a brilliantly considered response Jo. I also have problems interpreting contexts, facial expressions and subtleties of conversation, but through rote memory recall I feel that even though it takes me longer to reach conclusions on what was actually intended to be said, I often glean more information from the interaction than NTs do. Given a few hours after social interactions, having had time to process it all, I know who was lying, who liked who, who secretly dislikes who and who was wanting to escape the conversation etc. NTs are always surprised when I ask them a few days later about something they never said verbally.

Perhaps you feel that in the end you actually gain more from social interactions than an NT, purely because of how your brain logically interprets events through repeated recall?


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29 Dec 2016, 7:27 am

For the most part, yes. But there is the occasional "why do I have to have this stupid AS thing?" moment.


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29 Dec 2016, 7:41 am

I supposed I am okay with having Asperger's. I don't know how to be anything or anyone else. It makes me...well me. Of course, there are things associated with AS that are bothersome sometimes. Ultimately, I like being different. I wouldn't give it up for anything.



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29 Dec 2016, 7:47 am

Great responses both, you beautiful Aspie brothers and sisters. Thank you.


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