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26 May 2007, 2:07 pm

That doesn't justify posting a load of crap like that all the time though.
If he hated it so much then he should have just left it alone.



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26 May 2007, 2:23 pm

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That doesn't justify posting a load of crap like that all the time though.
If he hated it so much then he should have just left it alone.


some people on this messageboard have made me want to go on a gun rampage



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26 May 2007, 5:08 pm

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Are you an aspie? No, i thought not

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Die, scum. Die now. It would be more merciful then the fate i have planned for you.

With that you have just "confirmed" the views expressed in the initial post. I find that attitude deeply saddening and disturbing! :(


You know what, i really don't give a s**t. If he had said something that insulting to my face, i would have knocked him on hte floor and pulled a gun on him. There is just no excuse. I don't put up with BS like this.


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26 May 2007, 5:52 pm

Roxas_XIII wrote:
You know what, i really don't give a sh**. If he had said something that insulting to my face, i would have knocked him on hte floor and pulled a gun on him. There is just no excuse. I don't put up with BS like this.

Just a word of advice, starting to post about guns and wanting to kill people (same goes for the person before you) is not funny - a guy who posted here started writing s**t like that and guess what? He went and did it, went on a rampage and then killed himself. And people here sat helplessly trying to get in touch with his parents but not able to track him down in time.

If you're really that sick in the head that pulling a gun on someone seems a "sane" idea to you then you need to get help before it's too late.



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26 May 2007, 9:48 pm

Whilst the “All” from the OP is a definite blanket statement; probably due to said poster fixating on what he wants to see rather than those who offer a differing view.

A lot of those who're on the ASD speak condescending words of those who’re “normal”, hell...I laugh at those who spend twelve billion dollars on clothes, cars and cures for the incurable; I get satisfaction from challenging the status quo as I see an authority figure “blow up” in front of me....

This isn’t “sociopathic” behaviour [because I do care how I treat others and their feelings]; rather it’s typical human behaviour of group think that everyone everywhere does (well, not everyone, but it's usually the majority), i.e., my god is better than your gods.

It's a survival thing....



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28 May 2007, 9:03 pm

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You know what, i really don't give a sh**. If he had said something that insulting to my face, i would have knocked him on hte floor and pulled a gun on him. There is just no excuse. I don't put up with BS like this.

Just a word of advice, starting to post about guns and wanting to kill people (same goes for the person before you) is not funny - a guy who posted here started writing sh** like that and guess what? He went and did it, went on a rampage and then killed himself. And people here sat helplessly trying to get in touch with his parents but not able to track him down in time.

If you're really that sick in the head that pulling a gun on someone seems a "sane" idea to you then you need to get help before it's too late.


Excuse me, did you just say what i think you said? I am in a REALLY foul mood. Don't escalate me more than i already have been. f**k off. You really have no idea what you are talking about, or who you're speaking with.


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28 May 2007, 9:31 pm

Noetic wrote:
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You know what, i really don't give a sh**. If he had said something that insulting to my face, i would have knocked him on hte floor and pulled a gun on him. There is just no excuse. I don't put up with BS like this.

Just a word of advice, starting to post about guns and wanting to kill people (same goes for the person before you) is not funny - a guy who posted here started writing sh** like that and guess what? He went and did it, went on a rampage and then killed himself. And people here sat helplessly trying to get in touch with his parents but not able to track him down in time.

If you're really that sick in the head that pulling a gun on someone seems a "sane" idea to you then you need to get help before it's too late.


....Really? 8O



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28 May 2007, 11:25 pm

*You're*



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29 May 2007, 1:05 am

Roxas_XIII wrote:
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You know what, i really don't give a sh**. If he had said something that insulting to my face, i would have knocked him on hte floor and pulled a gun on him. There is just no excuse. I don't put up with BS like this.

Just a word of advice, starting to post about guns and wanting to kill people (same goes for the person before you) is not funny - a guy who posted here started writing sh** like that and guess what? He went and did it, went on a rampage and then killed himself. And people here sat helplessly trying to get in touch with his parents but not able to track him down in time.

If you're really that sick in the head that pulling a gun on someone seems a "sane" idea to you then you need to get help before it's too late.


Excuse me, did you just say what i think you said? I am in a REALLY foul mood. Don't escalate me more than i already have been. f**k off. You really have no idea what you are talking about, or who you're speaking with.


He is a funny little fella this guy. He has given me something to laugh about anyhow. Thanks Roxas it was an amusing posting.



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29 May 2007, 8:52 am

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Aspies are sociopaths because they disregard social situations for sheer pleasure. I've seen the threads, how you berate everybody else. You know, the symptoms are consistent, such as praising yourself, disregarding social rules and customs, thinking your too good to be touched, etc.

I hope Cure Autism Now is successful.


Social rules?..... I heard of those.....
I wish someone would make them as obvious as street signs.
Isn't a custom like an English pudding?

This is just an observation: are you stupid, or just ignorant?


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29 May 2007, 11:55 am

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Aspies are sociopaths because they disregard social situations for sheer pleasure. I've seen the threads, how you berate everybody else. You know, the symptoms are consistent, such as praising yourself, disregarding social rules and customs, thinking your too good to be touched, etc.

I hope Cure Autism Now is successful.


Ho! ho! I think that sometimes there is some harmless fun in having a little joke about NTs for members of this forum. We are with a group that have similar thought processes to ourselves for the first time in our lives. Other people generally do not understand the way that we think. Disregard and inability to understand something are not quite the same thing.
Your comments indicate a lack of understanding, aggression, and rudeness. No doubt some of us may seem rude to you. Go to "Forum NT" if you want to read about a bunch of people who comply with the standard social rules and customs. Maybe read between the lines and have a few guessing games whilst you are there. We cannot do these things, nor understand them.
Have a nice day.



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29 May 2007, 6:53 pm

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Sociopaths are created, and psychopaths are born. So it isn't entirely incorrect that people with Asperger could be sociopaths, but it is inaccurate to assume that all people with Asperger are sociopaths.

Sociopathy comes from life experience and how it shapes your mind, while psychopathy is a disorder you're born with. It's still very similar to sociopathy but an actual genetic disorder. I could be wrong, but that's what I've read ^^


The one problem with stating definitively what a psychopath or sociopath is or isn't is that one can't because they are so poorly defined at present.

I studied Psychopathy versus Sociopathy a few years back on my own when I was interested in criminal profiling and serial killers. At the time, I would've definitely agreed with you in your definitions.

However, today, I would hesitate and I think rightly so. True, as Dr. Hare has shown in his career-long study of Psychopaths that there are often neuroanatomical abnormalities, the only problem is stating categorically that these were strictly "in-born". They do not know whether this is an inevitable developmental path or whether the environment is also integral in shaping development and neural growth (or the lack of it) in a psychopath. The environment can affect brain growth and development and instructs the course of biology. Therefore, they cannot say that a shrunken amygdala is due to pure genetics no matter the environment or whether the environment was integral in aiding this development.

Although, I do agree that there is a difference between a Psychopath and a random common criminal most often. The jails are not usually full of psychopaths. Psychopathy is more of a "personality", one which places personal gain above all, one whose compassion is inhibited. While most criminals are defined by their actions and by the necessity of survival, and often the environment has necessitated this learning.

Anyways, sorry. I went on a huge inordinately pedantic tangent there. Ignore me. :)


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30 May 2007, 5:46 pm

rossc wrote:
Roxas_XIII wrote:
Noetic wrote:
Roxas_XIII wrote:
You know what, i really don't give a sh**. If he had said something that insulting to my face, i would have knocked him on hte floor and pulled a gun on him. There is just no excuse. I don't put up with BS like this.

Just a word of advice, starting to post about guns and wanting to kill people (same goes for the person before you) is not funny - a guy who posted here started writing sh** like that and guess what? He went and did it, went on a rampage and then killed himself. And people here sat helplessly trying to get in touch with his parents but not able to track him down in time.

If you're really that sick in the head that pulling a gun on someone seems a "sane" idea to you then you need to get help before it's too late.


Excuse me, did you just say what i think you said? I am in a REALLY foul mood. Don't escalate me more than i already have been. f**k off. You really have no idea what you are talking about, or who you're speaking with.


He is a funny little fella this guy. He has given me something to laugh about anyhow. Thanks Roxas it was an amusing posting.


Don't you EVEN start. Oh, and for the record, i am NOT little. I am 16 years old, 6 feet, and approx 135 pounds. You want someone little, go see Edward Elric. He's little, but he could still probably kick your butt. And if he can do it, I can do it a thousandfold.


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30 May 2007, 10:13 pm

Actually, Asperger's syndrome has a few things in common with psychopathy (but you could find some overlap with a host of other conditions too). An example is the associated feature of flat affect (lack of displayed emotional reaction), which may resemble the emotional coldness of a psychopath. Executive dysfunction (i.e., frontal lobe dysfunction) in both can result in impulsivity and poor ability to plan ahead, leading to poor decisions relative intelligence. Psychopaths have a form of sensory dysfunction of their own: sensation seeking (the need to take risks and seek high levels of external stimulation to give the brain optimal arousal). What really distinguishes the psychopath from the autistic (and indeed everyone else) is the psychopath's willingness to do serious harm to others deliberately solely for their own gain, no matter how trivial or fleeting that gain.

The psychopath's indifference to social norms and the rights and feelings of others is entirely different from the autistic's difficulty in understanding what others intend or are thinking and what the socially appropriate behavior for a given context might be.



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30 May 2007, 10:32 pm

NeantHumain wrote:
Actually, Asperger's syndrome has a few things in common with psychopathy (but you could find some overlap with a host of other conditions too). An example is the associated feature of flat affect (lack of displayed emotional reaction), which may resemble the emotional coldness of a psychopath. Executive dysfunction (i.e., frontal lobe dysfunction) in both can result in impulsivity and poor ability to plan ahead, leading to poor decisions relative intelligence. Psychopaths have a form of sensory dysfunction of their own: sensation seeking (the need to take risks and seek high levels of external stimulation to give the brain optimal arousal). What really distinguishes the psychopath from the autistic (and indeed everyone else) is the psychopath's willingness to do serious harm to others deliberately solely for their own gain, no matter how trivial or fleeting that gain.

The psychopath's indifference to social norms and the rights and feelings of others is entirely different from the autistic's difficulty in understanding what others intend or are thinking and what the socially appropriate behavior for a given context might be.


Psychopaths completely lack any and all empathy, guilt and remorse. They are also completely incapable of love and caring, and any such resemblance in emotion is just an obsession for stimuli. Some are even incapable of feeling fear, which will make them very dangerous and possibly calculated. Not all psychopaths are incapable of planning ahead, because there are proliphic serial killers whom do plan very well ahead and they must be psychopaths because no normal person would do such things.

"Aspies" on the other hand do not resemble psychopaths or sociopaths that much, on the surface perhaps there can be notable similarities to the ones without knowledge of the syndrome. But inside the mind it is significantly different. Psychopaths also don't often display that much social difficulty, on the contrary they can emulate it extremely well and come off as charming and well inserted in society..."Normal" that is...Which is why people don't often realize that their next door neighbour is a serial killer ^^

And oh uh Roxas...If you're being serious about all this, then maybe you need to consider seeking some help. I am not saying this to be a troll or to provoke a negative response, but having those thoughts and not seeing the wrong in them can be very dangerous. Both for you and those around you, so if you're serious about them then maybe you should talk to someone. So you don't go and act on them some day.



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30 May 2007, 10:51 pm

No, NTs are more sociopathic. They only pretend to care to get ahead, us aspies are at least honest, and we do care about others.