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HughDYork
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01 Sep 2017, 12:27 pm

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Who IS this person?????

You metal rock fans seemed to know him well.

Know him as both a musician, and as a convicted felon! Lol!

So introduce him to the rest of us.

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01 Sep 2017, 12:29 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

Who IS this person?????

You metal rock fans seemed to know him well.

Know him as both a musician, and as a convicted felon! Lol!

So introduce him to the rest of us.

Kristian "Varg" (Norwegian for 'Wolf') Vikernes.

Briefly a bassist for the Norwegian Black Metal band 'Mayhem'. Played bass on their seminal album 'De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas'. The guitarist (Euronymous) was stabbed to death by Vikernes, and his (Euronymous') mother demanded somebody else play Varg's bass parts before the release of the album. The band consented, however, it is alleged by some that the album contains Vikernes on bass, not a replacement.

Also had his own project (Burzum), and produced some of the finest black metal albums that there are (notably Hvis Lyset Tar Os, and Filosofem). He released three albums (Filosofem, Daudi Baldrs, and Hlidskjalf) from prison. The latter two were actually ambient works, not metal music. His music was heavily influenced by Tolkien's Lord of the Rings and RPGs.

Good friends with Fenriz from Darkthrone (another Norwegian Black Metal band)

He was jailed for murder, church arson, and improper storage of explosives.

Served a very lengthy sentences, and was released in about 2008/9, I think. He has released three or four albums since his release, but they are a long way from the glory days of the 1990s.

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01 Sep 2017, 12:32 pm

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01 Sep 2017, 12:35 pm

ailuzhin wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

Who IS this person?????

You metal rock fans seemed to know him well.

Know him as both a musician, and as a convicted felon! Lol!

So introduce him to the rest of us.

He could find it by himself i suppose.

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01 Sep 2017, 12:37 pm

Sounds like a charming guy.

Also sounds like he is more ADHD than autistic.

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01 Sep 2017, 12:38 pm

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I'm speaking about genocide.....I'm fortunate I've never had to see it in action.

Why are you talking about henocide. The subject is not about the things that so much trigger you.

Genocide is the logical result of racist ideology. If you want a society of only one ethnic group, at some point you'll have to start killing people. There's really no getting around it, which the Nazis eventually found out.

You get it that WP members beong to all kinds of ethnic groups, do you? That we're not just a bunch of white guys sitting around celebrating our whiteness?

I'm the kind of person Hitler wanted to breed more of. If I was a moron, I could take that as a compliment.

At first show me basis of humanitaian world view. I dont see it. IS it so self evident - what is good what is evil.

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01 Sep 2017, 12:41 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

Sounds like a charming guy.

Also sounds like he is more ADHD than autistic.

Oh you have labels for any case. Nice. No wonder.
There are enough charming people.

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01 Sep 2017, 12:42 pm

so... i will leave you for a while... talk and have a fun dear folk.
it was nice to talk to all of you.

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01 Sep 2017, 12:47 pm

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01 Sep 2017, 12:56 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

Who IS this person?????

You metal rock fans seemed to know him well.

Know him as both a musician, and as a convicted felon! Lol!

So introduce him to the rest of us.

Yes he was involved in the early days of black metal in Norway, particularly raw black metal...that is less produced sounding. Of course he was not the only one working on this kind of music there were others, and he ended up developing quite a grudge against another black metal musician who went by Euronymous and ended up killing him when things got particularly heated.

According to a statement varg wrote Euronymous had a large kitchen knife and threatened him when he showed up one night to talk to him, and so he killed him in self defense...but other sources imply he had possibly threatened Euronymous beforehand and he had the knife in case he had to defend himself from Varg.

I mean there is plenty of stuff online about it...if you want to know more in depth, but that is the basic description.

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01 Sep 2017, 1:05 pm

HughDYork wrote:

underwater wrote:

HughDYork wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

I'm speaking about genocide.....I'm fortunate I've never had to see it in action.

Why are you talking about henocide. The subject is not about the things that so much trigger you.

At first show me basis of humanitaian world view. I dont see it. IS it so self evident - what is good what is evil.

Well take the larger metal community for example, its a worldwide thing...if everyone was just sticking to their own then metal would not have the worldwide following that it does. I mean Varg is a recluse, and I certainly can't picture him wanting to have gone on tour and performed all over the world...but that is how metal has grown by musicians spreading it around and interacting with their worldwide fans as well as working with musicians who may or may not even be from the same place. Just sticking to your own ethnic group in small tight knit communities wouldn't allow for that.

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01 Sep 2017, 1:46 pm

Load of delusional Autism Supremacy crap. By definition one can not be "normal" and be 2% of the population.

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01 Sep 2017, 2:54 pm

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Load of delusional Autism Supremacy crap. By definition one can not be "normal" and be 2% of the population.

False assumption. Can. Considering that majority of people are crap. 2 % of people are just on a highest level of evolution. To them the rest of the people are not better than monkeys. People are not equale some people are better than other. Definately

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01 Sep 2017, 2:57 pm

HughDYork wrote:

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Load of delusional Autism Supremacy crap. By definition one can not be "normal" and be 2% of the population.

False assumption. Can. Considering that majority of people are crap. 2 % of people are just on a highest level of evolution. To them the rest of the people not better than monkeys. Peopleare not equale some people are better than other. Definately

I'd say monkeys are better than people, they don't cause nearly as much of an environmental hazard...

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01 Sep 2017, 3:12 pm

HughDYork wrote:

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Load of delusional Autism Supremacy crap. By definition one can not be "normal" and be 2% of the population.

Normal does not necessarily equal bad or good just the majority. Not normal has bad connotations. It just means not being average.

Some people are better than other. There is no evidence autistics as a group are "better" people than NT's, and no evidence autistics are overrepresented in the top 2%, however you subjectively define "better". "Supremacist" is associated with Nazis and other bad people. While Nazis are supremacists not all supremacists are Nazis. To be a supremacist you have to believe one group of people are better than others. If one believes autistics are better people the neurotypicals then one is an autistic supremacist. It is a true or false definition, no gray areas.

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01 Sep 2017, 3:28 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:

HughDYork wrote:

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Load of delusional Autism Supremacy crap. By definition one can not be "normal" and be 2% of the population.

I'd say monkeys are better than people, they don't cause nearly as much of an environmental hazard...

I think monkey would not apressiate nature as we do. All conspets originated in human mind.Bad and good . Evil and Good- everething came from people from intelleget form of life - im not speaking of you .Monkeys animals in general dont give a s**t on nature because no brains no consets no aestetic or moral conspets at all. do you understand it. stop project antropomorphic boleshit on animals. they dont care.

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