aspergers and the majority

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thats a good opinion too, greenblue.

that is sadistic and wrong.

Your point?

I kinda agree with Ramsus , specially if there's a genetic risk of having LFA kids .

I wouldn't call it sadistic and wrong, more sad than anything else. This guy clearly doesn't seem to care about anything, so I think it's in our best interest to just stop caring about him. He'll get bored of being ignored and just leave eventually.

Its a strikingly nihilistic attitude to assume that all AS kids are going to be complete social pariahs who will never be happy/get laid/have fun/lead productive lives.

But it's a statistically correct attitude.

......b***h.

Same here! Outside of just love and respect(which in part are driven by society. NOT in their existence, but in action and inaction taken), those are the reasons I would stick with one, etc.... I just haven't found her yet. But WOW, every now and then you meet someone like starbuline that doesn't mind age difference so much. I mention her because she implied she wouldn't mind staying with craig nichols(?) even though he is 14 years older than she is. I met at least 2 couples that have a 20 year difference. And you never REALLY know how long you'll live. My father and stepmother almost died within minutes of one another in a car crash. Luckily for them, the car held up. They're actually planning on suing the car company because the airbags weren't PERFECT! They didn't deploy, so my father and step mother supposedly got more injuries. She pretty much recovered, and my father has a few broken ribs.

Steve

Statistics can be misleading. There are hundreds of thousands of people who have never been asked what catfood their cat prefers, so to claim that 9 out of ten cats prefer MR KAT is frankly BS, and media-controlled hype that is twisted to suit. There arent even any set and sure figures for the incidence of AS worldwide (1 in 1000 in the UK maybe, or is it 2-6? No one seems to know.) so it seems unlikely that the statistics of AS pariahs are particularly accurate. Fact is, there ARE Aspies who do rather well all said, so why assume that we are all f**ked from the cradle or before?

I understand the "get laid" part, but the rest is certainly not statistically correct. happy/have fun IS kind of tied to interests in part. IQ and possibly the interests should add to a productive life. I think stats are skewed ANYWAY because the most likely ones to get diagnosed are ones that find things SO hard or SO uncertain that the stigma and/or expense of diagnosis is worth it. HECK, I never thought of a diagnosis. My mother took me for one LONG ago because the school saw social interaction as "so uncertain". That was before they knew about autism or AS though.

Steve

I was reading earlier about the eugenics movement in the early 1900s. Even America, Canada, and Switzerland were performing compulsory sterilization on people they thought weren't fit to have children. I saw a tv prog about this too some years ago where they interviewed some of the victims who seemed quiet reasonable people. I think if the idea hadn't been taken to such extreme by the SS and thus gone totally out of favour (thank goodness) then aspies would be on the list for this 'treatment' too.

I think the comment about dwarfs not having children is offensive to dwarfs - who gets to decide who can/can't have children and what is/isn't an acceptable human being?

I understand the place your in Ramsus and hope you come through it soon, it would be better though to try not pick on the threads of kids but go poke some adult WP threads to get a reaction

It comes down to quality of life. Eugenics works on finding an accepted norm and making sure that the breeding populace stays within that norm by pruning away the dead weight. Unfortunately, the accepted norm and dead weight are often as not anything even mildly unacceptable or different, from basic physical differences to racial characteristics. Predicting how a child will turn out in later life is almost impossible by any means. Only in the most obviously debilitating cases is there really a case for eugenic decisions. The difficulties experienced by Aspies are predominantly cultural and social in nature, and such factors can and do change throughout life.

I think your an idiot who loathes himself, I'm sorry but I couldn't let you say that.

If you are successful you mate and pass down your successful traits, therefore if you are a successful aspie who does good things for society and wish to have a son or daughter knowing they may have the same traits as you, is that so self-ish?

I'm sure they would be better off since an adult who has been through life and lived with the syndrome could understand them on a MUCH higher level than most, besides Asperger syndrome isn't a curse you moron, i consider it a trait just like blue eyes.

If you are indeed aspie then maybe you should check out the suicide hot line if thats how you think about yourself.

Didn't see the other page, this is a little old now (edit)

wheeee! whoopeee! it's fun to ridicule a 12 year old! after all it's an Asperger's Syndrome child and everyone knows they are defective! Wow, today was boring until I could tell a mother her children don't deserve to live and how selfish she is to have defective children
woopee!! ! you should see how my parent think about ME! this is so much fun. . .


Merle

How was my comment offensive? They are selfish to put children through that life just so THEY can have kids. This makes them cruel.


He's 13. At his age I was no differant than I am now. He can handle what's being said.


So.. you're calling all children with AS defective? Wow, you are a thousand times more ignorant than you claim I am.


If you create a life, knowing it will be flawed and tormented, you are doing it for your own selfish desire to bear children. Period.


Here you go.. assuming you or your life actually matters to anyone here.. Tsk.