Thoughs about Asperger´s syndrome in today´s society.

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21 May 2018, 8:59 pm

Ok..that does suck. Although I might have preferred a group home to the nightmare that was my house at the time. But than things got better, dad sobered up and I actually made friends for the first time in my life.



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21 May 2018, 9:06 pm

My mother wasn't a drinker----but she was a narcissist.

She used to get mad at the drop of a hat....



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21 May 2018, 9:25 pm

Both of mine were drinkers but my mother recovered when I was 7 years old fatber recovered just after I got to high school. Dad than just insulted me, called me 'goofy' amd 'handicapped '....ahhh...those were the days.
Both of us sound like we had upbringings we weren't wish on our worst enemy...well maybe the worst.



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21 May 2018, 9:32 pm

At least we've both overcome the crap.....



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21 May 2018, 9:34 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
At least we've both overcome the crap.....

Well yes and no. I am dtill overcoming alot of the after effects.



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21 May 2018, 9:37 pm

Yeah....me too, at times.....



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21 May 2018, 11:19 pm

The reason very simply for the lower proportion of female diagnosis, and higher male diagnosis, is that females are genetically predisposed to being socially inter-dependent involving collectively mimicked behavioural interactions ~ for the biological purposes of child-rearing, and as such safety in numbers.

Females then more in contrast to males have anything from a single broad range ~ to collectively broad ranges of social masking and cloaking abilities, depending upon Lower or Higher social functionality. Masculine males more in general have less ability to use social masking, and even no ability to use social cloaking, otherwise known as Social Camouflaging.

Thus we have the much more or totally invisible presentations of Asperger's Syndrome regarding females.

Perhaps for further information about female variant A.S., try the following link:

https://everydayaspie.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/females-with-aspergers-syndrome-checklist-by-samantha-craft/


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23 May 2018, 5:53 am

Thank you, Deepthought 7.

Although I was/am extremely familiar with more profound autism as generally presented in males (and some females), I did not realize how autistic I was until I read similar articles about autism/aspieness in females. The list of characteristics could have been a blue print for how my life has been. Suddenly everything "weird" about me made sense.


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23 May 2018, 1:01 pm

blazingstar said: Thank you, Deepthought 7

A definite pleasure blazingstar ~ I am glad to have been of some assistance.

blazingstar said: Although I was/am extremely familiar with more profound autism as generally presented in males (and some females), I did not realize how autistic I was until I read similar articles about autism/aspieness in females.

Pretty much the same here in terms of being myself Femasculine, although my previous familiarity with autism involved the higher functional types amongst the neurologically divergent nomads of society.

blazingstar said: 'The list of characteristics could have been a blue print for how my life has been. Suddenly everything "weird" about me made sense."

I so very much know what you mean here, as it was a major 'know thyself' identification factor ten session with the females with asperger's website ~ what with:

Section A: Deep Thinkers

01.) A deep thinker
02.) A prolific writer drawn to poetry
03.) *Highly intelligent
04.) Sees things at multiple levels, including her own thinking processes
05.) Analyzes existence, the meaning of life, and everything, continually
06.) Serious and matter-of-fact in nature
07.) Doesn’t take things for granted
08.) Doesn’t simplify
09.) Everything is complex
10.) Often gets lost in own thoughts and “checks out” (blank stare)


* Highly intelligent is rather a misnomer really, whereas being highly knowledgeable seems to be much more descriptively befitting, perhaps./?


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23 May 2018, 2:05 pm

INVISIBLE AT THE END OF THE SPECTRUM PDF ~ a really good female asperger's identification session methinks:

http://www.asknz.net/uploads/2/9/3/7/2937986/invisible_at_the_end_of_the_spectrum.pdf


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23 May 2018, 7:52 pm

Deepthought 7 wrote:
INVISIBLE AT THE END OF THE SPECTRUM PDF ~ a really good female asperger's identification session methinks:

http://www.asknz.net/uploads/2/9/3/7/2937986/invisible_at_the_end_of_the_spectrum.pdf


Thanks again, Deepthought 7. That is a real keeper. I admire people who can articulate the things that I can "see" and "understand" but cannot express with words. And she describes many of those things here. Even though I work in the field of developmental disabilities, I very much doubt that any of my colleagues think I could possibly be on the spectrum.

The more I learn, the more my life makes sense. I also am learning better how to help those on the spectrum achieve more independence. This process, going on about six months now, has led to a wider understanding of human life and I now have glimpses of the even greater beauty of the human mind.


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24 May 2018, 4:16 pm

blazingstar wrote:

"Thanks again, Deepthought 7. That is a real keeper.'



Yeah ~ the keeper bit definitely for me too. There are actually quite a few of these type of papers to be found; I was actually though looking for one in particular, but when I found the article provided ~ I felt no drive to look any further and the data-share urge took over.


blazingstar wrote:

'I admire people who can articulate the things that I can "see" and "understand" but cannot express with words. And she describes many of those things here.'



Getting to identify with age old experiences and those even sometimes we did not realise we even have ~ and actually having really meaningful "Me Too!" sessions; does rather help the hitherto unknown/ignored Aspie child within to actually learn it's dialect and nomenclatures of language and eventually speak, write and do stuff more effectively/confidently.

blazingstar wrote:

'Even though I work in the field of developmental disabilities, I very much doubt that any of my colleagues think I could possibly be on the spectrum.'



Well if you ever feel inclined to reveal your spectrum capabilities to your colleagues, you have a pretty fine 'ice-breaker' or discussion facilitator with the pdf provided, and others like it perhaps, or else of course just continue being and becoming the 'experiential' specialist in autism that you actually are ~ yay to you and your profession and all that! Major Aspie (or Aspergian) bonus in the field! :D

blazingstar wrote:

'The more I learn, the more my life makes sense. I also am learning better how to help those on the spectrum achieve more independence. This process, going on about six months now, has led to a wider understanding of human life and I now have glimpses of the even greater beauty of the human mind."



My special interest has always been the mind-body relationship, starting with comparative metaphysics from 6, philosophy from 7 and theosophy from 8, and then sociology a bit and psychology loads from 19, with quantum psychology over the last twenty years having become of particular interest.

In terms though of AS ~ have you come across in your research or heard of Tony Attwood, and his book THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO ASPERGER'S SYNDROME (?) ~ as it is in my considered opinion one of the best psychology/self-awareness manuals I have ever read, out of hundreds, as it covers each stage of individual development through the preadolescent, adolescent and into the early adult years. For the mature reader it gives anecdotes and accounts from those on the spectrum, famous and otherwise. It has references for resources aplenty.

In terms of technical detail regarding the psycho-dynamics and mechanics of Aspie/Aspergian psychology ~ the book is spot on, extremely well written. and was of immense value for me in working through my developmental glitches in terms of upbringing, education and all that ~ after my diagnosis 3 years ago, in May 2015.

One of the more appealing features of the book for me ~ is that it's written style seamlessly blends the linguistic semantic structures of the Aspergian mind; with those of the neurotypical mind, or verse versa ~ depending on the reader.

http://www.autismforthvalley.co.uk/files/5314/4595/7798/Attwood-Tony-The-Complete-Guide-to-Aspergers-Syndrome.pdf


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