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I've been very transparent about what my comorbids are. You outright fabricate things about me at every opportunity, including ridiculous statements like "sudden adult onset of ASD," and usually preface your Alternative Facts (BS lies) with "What I really think is going on here is.." followed by whatever nonsense you've decided to make up about me in the moment & it truly is funny stuff.

^^^^^^ Excellent!

It sounded to me like you said you didn't have any significant apergers symptoms until you took antibiotics when you were 29. You write a lot of stuff that's confusing to me and hard for me to follow. I wasn't trying to make anything up, I was trying interpret what all you were saying as best as I could. I apologize for any errors I made.

You're the one who says people here think you're crazy and a liar. No point in continuing with such so I bid you adieu.

What would be interesting....is if Goldfish would talk about his experiences with Asperger's/autism, social difficulties, and school from the time of his preschool years.

Was he in special classes? Did he have the Canadian equivalent of an IEP? How did he relate to the other kids? Did the other kids think he was a "nerd?" Things like that.

Who knows? Maybe he had a subclinical type of autism when he was in school, which did not necessitate any intervention--then a more "clinical" in adulthood caused by stress. I've seen this sort of thing happen here.

I've been very transparent about the fact that my ASD symptoms have been life long, that my earliest childhood memories all the way through to present day are textbook matches. What happened in my late 20's is that symptoms got worse and worse until they were so obvious to others that Asperger's Syndrome was brought to my attention. Logically, I knew that I wasn't always that bad, and that something was causing it - and if something could make it worse, something could make it better. I just had to figure out what those somethings were, and so I used my problem solving education (that I have credentials for!) & applied it to my own health vs. industrial engineering projects until I figured it out & what to do about it. Then I did it, and here I am now, living a better life for it. Same unchanged story I've been sharing here since, so, I'd appreciate it if you didn't misquote me and say that I said things that I never did.

You call me names. I acknowledge that. But it doesn't make me any of the things you call me, whether crazy or a liar or whatever, no more than Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was.

I never called you either of those words, you're the one who keeps using them to refer to yourself.
And like with ass-p, I'm not contributing to this years long rerun routine any longer. Have a nice life.

I actually think Semmelweis was given the shaft in his life.

I didn't attend preschool because my mother was a stay at home mom & then ran a daycare out of our family home. (I have an older brother, twin brother, younger sister - would have had an older sister but she was killed by a drunk driver a year or so before I was born) I was BORN with a built in friend & ALWAYS had someone to play with as a kid, so problems with socializing were not so apparent to others around me besides childhood arguments, schoolyard stuff, simple fighting amongst cousins playing after school etc. Even at school, while I did have friends throughout, even from First grade onwards when teachers put my twin brother and I in different classes because they felt it would be better for both of us, we were still able to meet up at recess/lunch breaks and play together. (and with others, we didn't just go off and do our own thing - but we always had that option.) We were both always quite high functioning, and reasonably intelligent (honours classes and such) & so besides a few more arguments with other students/teachers than average (okay, a fair bit more lol) and some schoolyard fights kind of thing (me more than my twin brother) we weren't singled out as being "different," and requiring a diagnosis.. just labelled as slightly "difficult," or whatever - in the late-80's-early-90's this was right around the time that teachers were starting to recognize things like ADHD in kids, but it was only the worst of the worst offenders that were the types to f**k up much more severely that were told "something's up with your kid, get them diagnosed and medicated or they can't come to school," kind of thing.

The only special classes I was ever in were challenge (honours) math classes. (and my twin brother was also in a challenge English class in grade 10) Otherwise I was in the same classes as every other kid. IEP's were a pretty new thing back then afaik, and I didn't have one, and nothing like that was ever suggested or recommended because I functioned highly enough to make it through things okay. I wasn't a straight A student or anything, as I didn't have the focus then that I do now, but I did well enough. I scored an A on my English 12 final & would have had the highest grade in my graduating class had I read a book and written a book report, but I was taking extra classes all year that started at 6:50am (CADD drafting career prep program - I did my work experience drafting fire truck design plans for 3 weeks at the now defunct Anderson Engineering and my drawings sold $400K worth of used firetrucks that were to be converted into water tankers to a hall in Alaska) while working 5-7 days a week after school And had already been accepted into business school at BCIT, so, priorities at the time mean that a girl in my class won that award & small scholarship. In terms of money, I earned plenty more by working extra than that scholarship was worth so w/e. She earned it, though - I was happy for her.

I related to other kids okay. Not perfectly, and in hindsight there are countless times I made blunders I didn't realize I made in the moment. Not until learning all this ASD stuff and then being able to think back over my life and go "aaaah.. whoops," like oh so many of us that figure these things out about ourselves as adults. Thing is, though, I didn't HAVE TO relate well to other kids because I had a twin brother to hang out with and play with all the time, and cousins that lived a few blocks away, and some neighbourhood friends to play street hockey with when we felt like it. I think my social problems would have been FAR more obvious to myself and others around me if I didn't have a twin brother to default to playing with all the time. Other things have been coincidental like that, too, like I assumed I had a habit of lip reading due to my high school best friend being deaf - I didn't realize until all of this ASD stuff that I didn't just have a habit of lip reading; I avoid eye contact! Things like that made my ASD traits not so noticeable because there were other explanations for things.

Other kids might have thought I was a bit of a nerd maybe ? But I also played soccer or hockey with them at recess, was on a grade 6 or 7 basketball team, jr high school swim team (we went to provincials and I swam the butterfly portion of the IM! ), worked with them at the "in crowd's," part time job of choice at a nearby McDonald's etc. I didn't just keep to myself, but, I went to school & work and that's about it - I didn't go hangout at the park/mall/corner, I didn't go to jr high or high school parties. I did work customer service but would burnout after work and just want to go home and be by myself. I related to kids so well that I was the only make who regularly hosted children's birthday parties at that McDonald's and the parents would tip me well for it. I'd way rather make those kids smile with simple games and things than go get drunk with my coworkers after shift, but I related well enough to my peers to get along with them just fine in the grand scheme of things in the environments where we were obligated to be around each other at school & work. I was just a little different, and I felt different - especially in grade 12 I was so stressed I experienced what's known in psychiatry as "depersonalization," and it was pretty frightening until I read enough about to know that it would pass.

I've always been much more high functioning, more like Ben Affleck's character in The Accountant than his non-verbal counterpart or even Rain Man. But my symptoms & functioning levels have not remained flat. I was pumped full of antibiotics as a newborn for ear infections. Many times more throughout childhood for various infections. Then a few YEARS of antibiotics as a teenager. And then several months of antibiotics in my late 20's, compounded with lifelong gut dysbiosis that made my symptoms go off the charts wild & so obvious to others that I couldn't deny my own diagnosis once I knew it. Then I came here.. then about a year later I learned new things, did what I did, shared what I have, and here we are now 5 years later.

BS you haven't. But what's even worse than calling me a liar is the MANY times you've completely fabricated "alternative facts," to the details of my life or myself, or completely misquoted me like Marknis does to people saying they said things they never did. There's something that seems almost pathological about it in you. Maybe you should ask your team of doctors to diagnose & treat it for you.

Your personal bias against me is why you choose to deny what science has now proven about ASD, and that's sad, really.

It's all right here for anyone to see: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5408485/

Last edited by goldfish21 on 07 Jun 2018, 11:49 am, edited 1 time in total.

Ya think?

Hmm, maybe that's why I can relate to him.. something about sharing a very important bit of medical science with people it can help and then being called a liar or insane.. kind of rings a bell.. can't quite put my finger on why, but hmmm, it's almost like deja vu.