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19 Oct 2018, 2:44 pm

Aspies lack the social skills to form a cohesive society. It's not like we get along fine with each other, we don't.

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19 Oct 2018, 4:18 pm

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Aspies lack the social skills to form a cohesive society. It's not like we get along fine with each other, we don't.

Exactly. This reiterates the point made that just because someone has ASD doesn't mean they're automatically compatible with someone else who has ASD.

If WP had a convention and there were hundreds of us together in one place face to face, I'm certain that I'd get along famously with some of you. However, I'm also certain that some of you would irritate me even more than most NT people could. Blunt? Truth.

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19 Oct 2018, 4:40 pm

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You almost had me until you started going into the heroic model of science and basically called the Southern Hemisphere stupid.

Seroiusly how many Southern Hemisphere Ben Franklins and Einsteins can you name? Its not racist its reality.

Just because you don't live in the Southern Hemisphere that doesn't mean that is true. That does sound really ignorant.

And you can't have an entire nation of people who all have the same condition. That's completely absurd!

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19 Oct 2018, 4:55 pm

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What did you have in mind for the NT children who are born in your Aspie nation?

The offspring of two people on the spectrum are very likely to be on the spectrum themselves. As for those born with Allistic disorder, how about therapy to stop them from being bullies including psychoactive drugs, homelessness, and misery?

Don't let bitterness consume you.

This would not be about punishing NTs, although I do hate them and feel myself perfectly justified in doing so.

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19 Oct 2018, 4:56 pm

Therefore, this thread's intended purpose seems to focus on providing a thinly-disguised excuse for expressing bigotry against NTs.

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19 Oct 2018, 4:57 pm

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mrspock wrote:

evilsithwraith666 wrote:

You almost had me until you started going into the heroic model of science and basically called the Southern Hemisphere stupid.

Seroiusly how many Southern Hemisphere Ben Franklins and Einsteins can you name? Its not racist its reality.

There are quite a few WP members from Australia, New Zealand, and South America. All are southern hemisphere.

Very few WP members are from mainland China which is in the northern hemisphere. Has about one forth of the population of the northern hemisphere by itself.

We don't know the neurodiverse rates very well even in developed countries like our own much less that of poor countries like in Africa where is no mental health system to speak of.

And you're working against yourself because your both crusading against bigotry (against autistics) and are advocating bigotry ( by race, or by hemispheric origin, or whatever it is you're on about) at the same time.

What I'm talking here is not the settlers who moved to Australia and those other places, I'm talking the natives who lived for centuries going WHOOO WHOOO around fires with shrunken heads and bones through their noses.

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19 Oct 2018, 4:58 pm

Not all NTs are bad people deserving of hate, just like not all Aspies are innocent.

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19 Oct 2018, 4:59 pm

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Therefore, this thread's intended purpose seems to focus on providing a thinly-disguised excuse for expressing bigotry against NTs.

No, its about the need for an Aspie nation, whether we would all get along or not.

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19 Oct 2018, 5:00 pm

mrspock wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

mrspock wrote:

evilsithwraith666 wrote:

You almost had me until you started going into the heroic model of science and basically called the Southern Hemisphere stupid.

Seroiusly how many Southern Hemisphere Ben Franklins and Einsteins can you name? Its not racist its reality.

Yeah, that is really racist dude

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19 Oct 2018, 5:02 pm

Oh, and Ancient Egypt and the Middle East are NOT places populated by black Africans, contrary to popular Afrocentric myth. Both were/are people of Medaterranian, like the Greeks. Its utterly absurd that black supremacists in the US try to claim that ancient Egypt was a black African civilization. Just look up their art and see how they depicted themselves VS the black Nubians to the South.

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19 Oct 2018, 5:05 pm

TW1ZTY wrote:

mrspock wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

mrspock wrote:

evilsithwraith666 wrote:

You almost had me until you started going into the heroic model of science and basically called the Southern Hemisphere stupid.

Seroiusly how many Southern Hemisphere Ben Franklins and Einsteins can you name? Its not racist its reality.

Yeah, that is really racist dude

I hate to break this to you, but its also the truth. I once thought as you do. And was asked by a black person from Africa why whites in the US think this way, since, as he correctly noted, white people invented electricity, computers, cars, etc. I don't advocate killing these people or curtailing their rights or freedoms in any way. But I do see their society as definitely inferior and make no apology for this.

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19 Oct 2018, 5:12 pm

mrspock wrote:

TW1ZTY wrote:

mrspock wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

mrspock wrote:

evilsithwraith666 wrote:

You almost had me until you started going into the heroic model of science and basically called the Southern Hemisphere stupid.

Seroiusly how many Southern Hemisphere Ben Franklins and Einsteins can you name? Its not racist its reality.

Yeah, that is really racist dude

Well I see our blatantly materialistic culture sucking this planet dry of it's natural resources as disgusting and narcissistic.

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19 Oct 2018, 5:16 pm

And ethnocentrism really disgusts me too.

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19 Oct 2018, 5:50 pm

I would not want to have anything to do with an "Aspie Nation" for fear of chocking on the vitriol of those who usually want to start it.

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19 Oct 2018, 5:59 pm

This thread is starting to become more of an argument about race, but I guess that’s kind of how it started- the idea of the “race of aspies” needing a “state” for their “nation”

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19 Oct 2018, 6:07 pm

Just out of curiosity what would a nation of sociopaths be like?

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