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26 Feb 2019, 2:33 pm

What do you mean by "normal"?



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26 Feb 2019, 2:47 pm

Normal means the standard brain-wiring; basically people who don't have a neurological disability or difference that can affect their social, emotional and/or intellectual functioning and learning, and cannot be cured, and interferes with some or most or all aspects of life that most neurotypicals take for granted (some/most/all depends on the person and the severity of their condition).

Most non-neurotypical people are born with a disability/disorder, for example those with autism, Asperger's, downs syndrome, Fragile-X syndrome, ADHD, and various other disabilities/conditions like these. Things like Bipolar and depression can normally be kept under control by medication, making the person typically functioning, but if these sorts of disorders cause a lot of issues and interferes with daily life even with medication, then that person falls outside the neurotypical population.

Also some things can depend on how common things are among humans, for example social or general anxiety and depression is fairly common among humans, so those aren't considered non-neurotypical disorders, unless of course these cause anti-social behaviours that aren't related to drugs or alcohol abuse.

But psychology is very complex, so trying to explain it on forums like these in a logical sense is nearly impossible, as everyone has their own definition of neurotypical.


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26 Feb 2019, 3:00 pm

Yes, but without having to change:

Meaning, I wish more people were like me. Then I'd be normal by default and still the same person, and better able to interact with the masses.



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26 Feb 2019, 3:10 pm

I concede that I have limitations related to executive functioning and multitasking and that I have hypersensitivities with hearing, smell, touch and sight (to a degree). There are many people who have "normal" brain functioning (ie NT) that have far more challenges related to physical disabilities, for example, than I have.

I don't wish that I would 'think like "normal" people do. I value the way that I think about things differently than most "normal" people seem to.

To me, the question is similar to asking: "Do you wish you were taller/shorter?". It's a perfectly valid question, but........



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26 Feb 2019, 6:56 pm

I don't consider myself an autistic supremacist, but I don't like the way NT teens my age think, especially about autism.


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26 Feb 2019, 7:13 pm

Magna wrote:
What do you mean by "normal"?


That really is the problem though isn't it? Normal is essentially just people applying their own values and beliefs to others. Still though, it's hard to escape that kind of mindset, since the people who have been labeled as not normal tend to just accept it as well. I get told on a regular basis I'm not normal, I just tell them I'm actually the only normal one here, it's everyone else who's strange.


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26 Feb 2019, 7:37 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Yes, but without having to change:

Meaning, I wish more people were like me. Then I'd be normal by default and still the same person, and better able to interact with the masses.


So your only issues are interacting with others?
If so that is already very good and encouraging-
as that may be possible to work on
(Social thinking website explains this) compared to the other issues mentioned in this thread


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26 Feb 2019, 7:51 pm

I would like to see what it's like being "normal", but I don't want to change who I am. I like being my unique self, even if it's hard sometimes.



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26 Feb 2019, 7:53 pm

I would love to be normal!



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26 Feb 2019, 8:09 pm

Rad Rockit wrote:
Magna wrote:
What do you mean by "normal"?


That really is the problem though isn't it? Normal is essentially just people applying their own values and beliefs to others. Still though, it's hard to escape that kind of mindset, since the people who have been labeled as not normal tend to just accept it as well. I get told on a regular basis I'm not normal, I just tell them I'm actually the only normal one here, it's everyone else who's strange.


That is a fantastic (helpful) attitude to have
U made me recall my old classmate

She was one of the popular ppl from Grade 10 of Milton District high school


She began talking to me upon unexpectedly meeting me at a party years later) reminiscing about how ‘weird we all were’ (her and others in the class)
I was about to say yes I know I was. But she said
‘You were weird because you weren’t weird. You were so normal. That was strange.’

That was the first time I had been told that

I told her ‘i just kept quiet ‘
and she said ‘no but compared to everyone else at scholl you were normal.’ She insisted on it

So maybe ASD also makes u seem more even n balanced compared to others

We just cannot see from others’ perspectives


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26 Feb 2019, 10:20 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
Rad Rockit wrote:
Magna wrote:
What do you mean by "normal"?


That really is the problem though isn't it? Normal is essentially just people applying their own values and beliefs to others. Still though, it's hard to escape that kind of mindset, since the people who have been labeled as not normal tend to just accept it as well. I get told on a regular basis I'm not normal, I just tell them I'm actually the only normal one here, it's everyone else who's strange.


That is a fantastic (helpful) attitude to have
U made me recall my old classmate

She was one of the popular ppl from Grade 10 of Milton District high school


She began talking to me upon unexpectedly meeting me at a party years later) reminiscing about how ‘weird we all were’ (her and others in the class)
I was about to say yes I know I was. But she said
‘You were weird because you weren’t weird. You were so normal. That was strange.’

That was the first time I had been told that

I told her ‘i just kept quiet ‘
and she said ‘no but compared to everyone else at scholl you were normal.’ She insisted on it

So maybe ASD also makes u seem more even n balanced compared to others

We just cannot see from others’ perspectives


You might have a point. I do wonder if keeping quiet does make us seem more "normal". People tend to say I'm not normal because of the off the wall stuff I say on occasion. But a majority of the time I'm quiet, especially around people I don't know. Usually when I tell someone I'm on the spectrum their response is somewhere along the lines of "but you seem normal though". I wonder if that's because they haven't actually gotten to know me enough to see some of my quirks, and just see me as a typical quiet, shy guy. But I also find it odd because these people know my dressing habits are a bit unusual by comparison to most people in this area. Also yeah, what I wouldn't give to be able to see things from the perspective of other people.


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