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22 May 2019, 4:49 am

People think I'm really intelligent.

Also very talkative, direct and blunt, and rather bossy.

I lead people and conversations, because I can't follow other people's thoughts. I don't understand their intentions. I push them to their limits (which of course was too low in my opinion). I hurt a lot of feelings, but luckily I don't really care. People are way too sensitive. They should all be purely rational. :)

So ya, probably the opposite of a lot of people here, but lacking social skills all the same.


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22 May 2019, 7:03 am

blackholenullvoid wrote:
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Somebody in high school.

Kids usually don't know what they're talking about in high school. They just come up with insults out of the clear blue sky. That's why I, eventually, didn't take any insult very seriously.


I believe that's typical for adults, too. It's quote common among progressive liberals; everyone is a racist or bigot (even if they're sexists, homophobics or xenophobics). Misogynists are called masochists (etc.).



Maybe I am way off what you guys and gals are talking about but a thought struck me. Could it be that the way people vote in elections reflects their individual character? I think very much so. Any oppinions?



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22 May 2019, 9:10 am

Smart
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Quiet in general, but when I do speak, I know what I'm talking about because I have studied.
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22 May 2019, 1:23 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
blackholenullvoid wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Somebody in high school.

Kids usually don't know what they're talking about in high school. They just come up with insults out of the clear blue sky. That's why I, eventually, didn't take any insult very seriously.


I believe that's typical for adults, too. It's quote common among progressive liberals; everyone is a racist or bigot (even if they're sexists, homophobics or xenophobics). Misogynists are called masochists (etc.).



Maybe I am way off what you guys and gals are talking about but a thought struck me. Could it be that the way people vote in elections reflects their individual character? I think very much so. Any oppinions?


Jordan Peterson believes so. He states that conscientious people vote conservative, and open people vote liberal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwibFhqh5k0

But, AI has an incredible impact on human voting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULLJ_2MR0Ok

Essentially, it wants you to be predictable; that way, you'll click what it offers more often (thereby generating ad revenue). And to make you that way, it polarizes you with the content it offers (c.f. Filter Bubbles). It doesn't matter which camp you move toward, as long as you become extreme. The saving grace is that you can't be an extremist unless there's a camp to be extreme against. Thus, we retain (easily-manipulated) near-equilibrium.



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22 May 2019, 2:55 pm

Its wrong isn't it. I mean. Machines predicting outcomes before the people area given a say. I think we need to start a revolt against machines that use AI. Machines are supposed to be an aid and not to take over from us.



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22 May 2019, 3:13 pm

Mountain Goat wrote:
Its wrong isn't it. I mean. Machines predicting outcomes before the people area given a say. I think we need to start a revolt against machines that use AI. Machines are supposed to be an aid and not to take over from us.


Even if that worked, it wouldn't achieve your goal. The AI is creating propaganda, and propaganda is an unavoidable and perhaps even essential part of an interconnected society (specifically: via media). And contrary to popular belief, education makes you most prone to its effects, not against its effects.

In short, as long as there's mass media: psychological tactics (c.f. Judgment and Decision Making [JDM]) and emotional manipulation (etc) will always control the masses. The only solution is to dissolve all mass media, and I certainly don't want that.

Instead, we need people with high morals controlling mass media, rather than what we have now (CNN, etc.).



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22 May 2019, 4:09 pm

Odd,weird.



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22 May 2019, 4:11 pm

No...I don't believe voting for one particular person determines "character," necessarily.

I'm of a liberal mind-bent---but I've been irritated by people who vote liberal. Whereas, I am in accord with some who vote conservative.



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22 May 2019, 7:41 pm

blackholenullvoid wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Somebody in high school.

Kids usually don't know what they're talking about in high school. They just come up with insults out of the clear blue sky. That's why I, eventually, didn't take any insult very seriously.


I believe that's typical for adults, too. It's quote common among progressive liberals; everyone is a racist or bigot (even if they're sexists, homophobics or xenophobics). Misogynists are called masochists (etc.).


But you are talking about the *far* left (and *far* right in terms of emotionalism/one-eyed-tunnel-vision :cyclops: ).
Hardly typical or normal people. 8O
Fringe on the bell curve stuff and nonsense.
Most adults don't fall into that, surely. :wink:

Caffeine rulz! :hic:



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22 May 2019, 7:45 pm

blackholenullvoid wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Somebody in high school.

Kids usually don't know what they're talking about in high school. They just come up with insults out of the clear blue sky. That's why I, eventually, didn't take any insult very seriously.


I believe that's typical for adults, too. It's quote common among progressive liberals; everyone is a racist or bigot (even if they're sexists, homophobics or xenophobics). Misogynists are called masochists (etc.).


But you are talking about the *far* left (and *far* right in terms of emotionalism/one-eyed-tunnel-vision :cyclops: ).
Hardly typical or normal people. 8O
Fringe on the bell curve stuff and nonsense.
Most adults don't fall into that, surely. :wink:

Caffeine rulz! :hic:

blackholenullvoid wrote:

Instead, we need people with high morals controlling mass media, rather than what we have now (CNN, etc.).


Few and far between, unfortunately. 8O



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22 May 2019, 7:49 pm

Pepe wrote:
blackholenullvoid wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Somebody in high school.

Kids usually don't know what they're talking about in high school. They just come up with insults out of the clear blue sky. That's why I, eventually, didn't take any insult very seriously.


I believe that's typical for adults, too. It's quote common among progressive liberals; everyone is a racist or bigot (even if they're sexists, homophobics or xenophobics). Misogynists are called masochists (etc.).


But you are talking about the *far* left (and *far* right in terms of emotionalism/one-eyed-tunnel-vision :cyclops: ).
Hardly typical or normal people. 8O
Fringe on the bell curve stuff and nonsense.
Most adults don't fall into that, surely. :wink:

Caffeine rulz! :hic:


"Typical" and "quite common" (sp) are similar but not the same. Although my experience has been that most adults behave this way (typical, and perhaps I'm failing to confirmation bias), it's far more common among progressives.

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Pepe wrote:
Few and far between, unfortunately. 8O


Indeed.



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22 May 2019, 8:35 pm

blackholenullvoid wrote:
I believe that's typical for adults, too. It's quote common among progressive liberals; everyone is a racist or bigot (even if they're sexists, homophobics or xenophobics). Misogynists are called masochists (etc.).

It's only a side note, but I'm thinking it's entirely possible that someone could be a racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic xenophobe all at the same time. There are certainly some at the extreme end who throw labels out way too liberally (pun sort of intended).



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22 May 2019, 8:59 pm

Exuvian wrote:
blackholenullvoid wrote:
I believe that's typical for adults, too. It's quote common among progressive liberals; everyone is a racist or bigot (even if they're sexists, homophobics or xenophobics). Misogynists are called masochists (etc.).

It's only a side note, but I'm thinking it's entirely possible that someone could be a racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic xenophobe all at the same time. There are certainly some at the extreme end who throw labels out way too liberally (pun sort of intended).


I'm fairly far left, although I see the intersectional politics and emotionality to be psychosocial weapons in accordance to the realities of human psychology (self-group interests, bandwagoning, "pathetic" appeals, etc.) that are necessary to accomplish far left political goals, namely the liberation from birth lottery in terms of QOL due to possessing a favorable intersection of privileges, many of which can be quantified in data. The approach appears to be recruiting more individuals than it turns off, if one is examining the rise of far left popularity in the past decade. It is demonstrably a stronger influence in the political arena than previously.

I think it's unfair to dismiss the fringes of the bell curve, as Pepe suggested. How is that bell curve constructed, after all? It is through the opinions (often manipulated by powerful interests with a stake in maintaining the status quo) of NT individuals who are emotionally driven and hyper vulnerable to fallacious appeals to their cognitive biases. I can, however, understand an appeal to centrism from a "faith in systems, law, and procedure" perspective, especially from a desire for security and order with minimized uncertainty in a rapidly changing global environment.


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22 May 2019, 9:01 pm

Wow! Did this thread get derailed or what!



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22 May 2019, 9:11 pm

Same as you, except that I don't have a dog

Certainly not everyone tells me how they perceive me

Nor should they

Penis told me that I was "grumpy"

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