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27 Sep 2020, 6:46 pm

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1. I am unsure where you read into anyone suggesting that people with autism should mimic NT people

2. The ambush with acceptance is an allusion to a fairly popular meme that is mostly self-effacing towards myself...

3. One of the sources posted suggested that autism will rise in levels of variance where it may become a sizable percentage of the population and may conceivably become the new majority over the span of a few generations.


1. I think I've heard elsewhere--maybe not in this thread--that there are pressures for autistics to act like NTs. It seems to me I have experienced that kind of peer pressure when growing up. I interpret the Paul Collins quote above to be about getting square pegs (autistics) to act like round pegs (NTs)...and that it isn't a good thing. I suspect a lot of us agree with that sentiment even if this thread hasn't dwelt on it.

2. I would say I've lost touch with popular culture but it would be a lie. I was never in touch with it. I did not get the allusion. Sorry. I am confused. And, after reflection, my confusion is deeper than I realized...um...should I want you to ambush me with "acceptance"? I had been reading it as a threat but now I'm thinking it is an offer. I am confused. :scratch: (It's OK, though. I'm confused a lot. I'm used to it.)

3. I think a proliferation of WP folk would be wonderful for society but I doubt it will happen. Some of those NTs are really good at breeding more NTs. And surely it would take more than a few generations. But we can dream...


1. Yes it causes damage to the autistic person to try to fit the NT model. Interestingly enough, also those with high trait creativity which is not usually an autistic characteristic, also experience the same kind of damage to their psyche in attempting to fit into this world.

2. I am mostly making fun of myself. It is neither threat nor offer or both. I'm mocking the way I come across to people sometimes.

3. Some of the research suggests that the rise of incidences of autism will not necessarily be hereditary, thus two NT parents can still produce autistic children. The person's talk I'm referencing made it sound like a phenomenon that isn't entirely understood nor easily explained which is leading some, not most just some, to suggest this may just be a new or next version of human.



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27 Sep 2020, 7:03 pm

I was in at an autism discussion offline and the speaker suggested that actually contrary to stereotype about creativity not being an autistic trait, more autistic people work in the arts than in STEM (which is commonly stereotyped as autistic friendly).

That doesn't include those of us who are on ESA but who 'work' as artists and writers without pay. And those who have such things as hobbies. And undiagnosed people with autistic type personalities who are artists etc.


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27 Sep 2020, 8:15 pm

KT67 wrote:
I was in at an autism discussion offline and the speaker suggested that actually contrary to stereotype about creativity not being an autistic trait, more autistic people work in the arts than in STEM (which is commonly stereotyped as autistic friendly).

That doesn't include those of us who are on ESA but who 'work' as artists and writers without pay. And those who have such things as hobbies. And undiagnosed people with autistic type personalities who are artists etc.


Interesting and not surprising. Of all the assessments for high functioning autism, the only one that I performed wildly outside the standardized range for HFA females was the Two-Factor Imagination Scale, which is markedly low. This is what led to my earlier comment about creativity not necessarily being associated with the spectrum, imagination and creativity are often associated.