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07 Jul 2005, 3:13 pm

I am sorry for being so cryptic. To take your mind off of all this, you can read this thread if you'd like.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... pic&t=3911


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07 Jul 2005, 3:20 pm

Oh well. Fanatical Chritsians are hypocrits. So are fanatical wombles. They say pick up the trash and shoot the white trash. How hypocritical is that? Wait a minute... it makes sense. I agree with the wombles on that point, but not on their point for trying to exterminate the human race as a whole. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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07 Jul 2005, 3:51 pm

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Extremists have no right to claim commonality with any group other than their own deluded selves.


Hear hear. :evil:


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07 Jul 2005, 3:53 pm

tom wrote:
Hitler was no Christian. He simply professed to be a Christian.


Same logic applies to Muslim extremists...



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07 Jul 2005, 4:10 pm

There are at least 35 people dead, now. :cry: I hope that all this is over with by the time that 2012 rolls around. I really want to go to the 2012 games in London. :x



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07 Jul 2005, 4:12 pm

Very aweful and sad news. :cry:



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07 Jul 2005, 5:37 pm

I wonder if it had anything to do with the announcement that the 2012 Games would be held in London?

After the attacks in New York and the East Coast on Sept. 11, it really didn't strike me. (When I woke up that morning, my mom was watching the news and it seemed almost like they were advertising some special effects movie or something. It was about six o'clock in the morning on the West Coast.) But it really makes me mad that the terrorists would have the nerve to bomb parts of London. I mean, at least when they bombed America, they didn't bomb the subway or anything like that.

My heart goes out to all the people in London right now. :cry:


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07 Jul 2005, 5:47 pm

Namiko wrote:
I wonder if it had anything to do with the announcement that the 2012 Games would be held in London?

After the attacks in New York and the East Coast on Sept. 11, it really didn't strike me. (When I woke up that morning, my mom was watching the news and it seemed almost like they were advertising some special effects movie or something. It was about six o'clock in the morning on the West Coast.) But it really makes me mad that the terrorists would have the nerve to bomb parts of London. I mean, at least when they bombed America, they didn't bomb the subway or anything like that.

My heart goes out to all the people in London right now. :cry:


It was probably because of the G8 summit.



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07 Jul 2005, 7:25 pm

Am I the only one who's completely un-shocked by this? The exact same thing is a weekly occurance in Iraq, in Uganda, the Lord's Resistance Army is still kidnapping children and making them beat in the heads of their parents with clubs, young girls are used for 'rape training' in the zimbawe military, Tibetan monks routeinly get their genitals electrocuted by the chinese, Palestine is still awash with blood and the only time anyone gives a damn is when there's a slight change of venue that brings some of it closer to home.

Maybe I'm just jaded from my self-exposure to the horrors of the world. Call me when '33 killed in London' isn't bigger news than '100,000 killed in Iraq'.


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07 Jul 2005, 7:30 pm

You have a point.



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07 Jul 2005, 7:30 pm

Peter, i'm not going to elaborate on this so as not to appear insensative, but in answer to your question.
Are you the only one not shocked by this?
No.


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07 Jul 2005, 8:09 pm

There are reports of Londoners appearing not to be the slightest bit surprised.
So it was a question of not will it happen, but when.

Bombing innocent people like this seems such a cowardly thing to do.
Have just heard on the news that they are fairly sure it was al queda.



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07 Jul 2005, 9:42 pm

Thank you for mentioning that this is a regular occurance in non-western nations. What happened in London was tragic. But I keep getting this feeling that the lives of people who are from, say, "first world" nations are considered more important than those in the African and Middle Eastern countries.

Even when the tsunami hit, the people the media interviewed were mostly Europeans who happened to be vacationing in the affected areas. Same thing with school shootings. They were a regular occurance in inner-city schools but when it happened in a middle-class suburbian school, it was world news and everyone was just "appalled" or "How can this happen here?"

We have a habit of not addressing a problem until it becomes our problem. If we had addressed terrorism when it was occuring in those other countries, the problem wouldn't have spread to our backyards. We should make it a point to have concern for everybody, regardless of whether they're from London, America, Kuwait or Zimbabwe. What good we do for others we do for ourselves. If we ignore the problems of others, they will eventually become our problems.

These terrorist attacks are a heads up that we are not a collective of nations, but human beings who share one planet and collectively must learn other ways of being because the old ways of greed, hatred and violence are going to spread like a virus and wipe out all of mankind.



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07 Jul 2005, 9:46 pm

Namiko wrote:
But it really makes me mad that the terrorists would have the nerve to bomb parts of London. I mean, at least when they bombed America, they didn't bomb the subway or anything like that.

I draw no distinction between 9/11 and the London bombings. They were both chickenshit attacks on civilians who have no role in the world affairs that they claim to be fighting against. I hope Bush offers full military support to England should they wish to accept it.



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08 Jul 2005, 12:22 am

Peter_Mackenzie wrote:
Am I the only one who's completely un-shocked by this? The exact same thing is a weekly occurance in Iraq, in Uganda, the Lord's Resistance Army is still kidnapping children and making them beat in the heads of their parents with clubs, young girls are used for 'rape training' in the zimbawe military, Tibetan monks routeinly get their genitals electrocuted by the chinese, Palestine is still awash with blood and the only time anyone gives a dam* is when there's a slight change of venue that brings some of it closer to home.

Maybe I'm just jaded from my self-exposure to the horrors of the world. Call me when '33 killed in London' isn't bigger news than '100,000 killed in Iraq'.

YOu do have a point. But suffering of all kinds should be treated in the same way.


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08 Jul 2005, 4:42 am

You know, it is well named. Terrorism. Mostly we associate terrorism with bombers and killers. But what they actually do is cause terror. Nobody can trust anybody, they might be a terrorist. Be wary, your food, air, and water could be poisoned. Basically it rearranges our priorities and our definitions of the situation so that we can be forced to do things we wouldnt otherwise ordinarily do. It is interesting how terrorism has changed our culture.


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