Autigender-what's your opinion?

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An explanation of "autigender" since apparently no one Google's anything anymore.

https://lgbta.wikia.org/wiki/Autigender

Oklahomans as well as Texans.

Okay...so its not "autism as a third gender". It's something else.

Yeah. It's essentially just a secondary, explanatory label (or that's how I've seen it used). I don't get the assertation in this thread that it's "autism as a gender" or that people are replacing the whole concept of "nonbinary" with it. Most people I've seen use this still just call themselves nonbinary 99% of the time.

If you're a pacifist in wartime and everyone else in society is revved up for war, you may feel very out of place. If only males are expected, and even required, to go to the frontline, then a male pacifist will have a different experience than a female pacifist.

However, while experiences will be different, pacifism itself is not an attribute of gender. In this example, even most of the women in society (who don't have to fight) are gung-ho for war. So, being a pacifist or not seems separate from gender.

That's why I can't fully comprehend this autigender thing.

For (I hope) my last comment on broad politics here, it makes no difference to me whether somebody commits assault because of the victim's membership of a group or whether they do it because they just felt like hurting somebody. In both cases I'd avocate the same punishment. I had difficulty seeing what was wrong (apart from a gut feeling there was something fishy about it) with the response to the Black Lives Matter slogan when somebody said "all lives matter" until I read a clear explanation by a BLM guy - "we know damn well that all lives matter, we're saying black lives matter because some of you jerks clearly think they don't." If people explained things that clearly all the time, I'd probably get into less trouble with the PC people. I'll shut up now.

Well..they all think that because thats what it sounds like you're talking about.

And since it isnt what you're talking about its frankly hard to figure out what you are talking about. Autistics experience being human differently than NTs experience being human. But you dont talk about "autispecies".

I don't really expect anyone to understand it and I wasn't the one who made the thread, I just found it weird how no one actually looked up the term and just came up with assumptions about it. I didn't get it and thought the same stuff that other people in the thread did, until I looked it up awhile ago.

Is autigender basically a simpler way of answering the gender box with i have autism therefore it's complicated.

I guess I'm not in the "so often" crowd of what it means to be nonbinary.

Yes, there are many trans and nonbinary people who don't believe one needs gender dysphoria to be trans or nonbinary for that matter.. I'll refrain from my objective opinions on that; as I'm trans-nonbinary.

I suffer immensively with body dysmorphia and gender dysphoria, am currently and actively pursuing social and medical transitional treatments to reduce the urges of ending my life. I flucuate on a gender spectrum of "in between" or a little bit of both genders..


Smudge... Pizza is not a gender nor are Texans or Oklahomans because I wouldn't consider ingesting one's gender (as much as I love pizza) or be able to fit the size of all Oklahomans and Texans into my stomach for my cannibalistic colarie intake needs.. (a little sarcasm for the pompously self-righteous ignorance shown on this thread)

Back to the topic at hand..

Personally, I believe neogendered pronouns and identities are a little absurd to me and go more into the realm of mental illness / attention seeking behaviors / narcissistic charactistics and aligns with huge egos or extreme confusion. (Not being hateful, just my opinion; if I'm wrong on this topic; stone me, accordingly.)

Being trans-nonbinary, it's disheartening knowing that some don't take nonbinary people that do indeed transition into consideration, yet here I am doing just that, as we do exist... so it's unfortunate that people like me are under represented in the discourse of nonbinary/trans identity discussion.

Back to answering OP's question; I find that anything outside of she/he/they prounouns (unless influenced by cultures outside of modern western civilization gender norms prior to colonization and following the erasure of multiple genders in cultures of indigenous people's around the world; e.g. "two spirit" etc..) is a little extreme and going into a different areas not related to trans/nonbinary issues (trans-racial/species etc.., for instance.. somethings I feel are very damaging to actual trans and/or nonbinary people..)

Our lives as trans folk are already hard enough as it is.. some clowns needs taming, some troll-clout chasing opportunist's (oli london for example ) need humbling and some mentally-ill people simply need treatment.

Auitigender being another neopronoun/gender identity outside of the mostly accepted 3 gendered normed ideals; it's a difficult discussion to be had, as I won't argue with another on the spectrum on how they identify, because being autistic can be challenging enough as it is and if it makes them happy then good on them.

With that said, unlike some on this forum thread, I don't need to understand something to know that being a decisive as*hole about it/towards someone who uses neoprouns is an ethically depleted nuance.

Just be nice to people and let people live their lives (By the way, to be clear; no one is "indoctrinating" anyone else by simply existing and being comfortable and confident enough to be publicly open about their lived experiences), no matter their gender identity/race/sexuality/religion or political affiliations etc.. unless they're unbearable, confrontational, obviously attention seeking c*nt bags who don't know how to coexist with those that disagree or live outside their own bubbles of blissful ignorance.. then give em a proper knot to the face for making us all look bad as humans in general.

Last edited by Cornflake on 10 Aug 2021, 6:04 am, edited 7 times in total.: Removed a personal attack

Well I guess I feel a bit differently about this than most...
Because I consider myself non-binary and autigender.

That is, my gender identity is non-binary
But the reason for my non-binary gender identity seems to me strongly tied in with my autism, in the sense that my autistic way of thinking has led me in that direction. Hence I consider myself autigender.

Many of the comments early in this thread seem to be based on a misconception that autigender is "another type of gender" which is not the case, it refers to the influence of autism on ones gender identity, whichever gender that happens to be.

Yeah, kind of. lol

Autism is not a gender.  Neither are dyslexia, nor dysmorphia, nor any other developmental or perceptive disorder.

This is fact, not opinion.

I totally get that.

I really don't think like NT women. I'm definitely different. I've talked to couple of NT women about gender identity and they were adamant that they definitely felt female whereas I don't feel like my gender defines me. I think I would be living the same life if I was male.

I would have the same interests and like the same music too.

I prefer to define myself via the Meyers Brigs personality types rather than add more confusion into the mix.

I'm INTJ, which explains a lot.

It's nice to see someone who actually understands and uses the label join the conversation. So far it's mostly been a circle jerk of misconceptions about trans and NB people as a whole.

I also said before that I don't use the label "autigender", but I do think that autism has affected my perception of my gender, and that I probably wouldn't have ended up considering being NB if I wasn't autistic. I don't get how it's odd to think that something that affects someone's social development and understanding of social norms could affect something so based in those things, such as gender identity.