Do mental disorders in people turn you on?
Aspergers is not a mental disorder. It's a developmental disorder. Big difference.
I think I attract wacko's with Bi-polar, Multiple Personality & Schizo disorders. My experience is the former two are always emotionally abusive to others therefore I avoid them & will not continue the friendship when I see the behaviors starting.
I much prefer the company of normal non-mental, non-developmental problem people.
If that's true does it also mean if we are attracted to certain aspects of someone then it's just a reflection of a part of us?
(Yes, i know....i'm deep)
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Who loaded you with that BS? What I dislike in people are traits that are either a) destroying society b) destroying the planet c) useless d) not helpful
I don't know about you, but what I tend to not like about people I attempt to negate and remove from myself (if its there in the first place).
See, people will believe in anything.
I think I attract wacko's with Bi-polar, Multiple Personality & Schizo disorders. My experience is the former two are always emotionally abusive to others therefore I avoid them & will not continue the friendship when I see the behaviors starting.
I much prefer the company of normal non-mental, non-developmental problem people.
A developmental disorder in the terms of you are growing individual and have a lot of issues that reflect themselves as disorder to overcome. This implies that you can GROW out of it.
If you actually look at what i wrote you would notice i started it with 'apparently'. That means maybe people are like that.
I also never said it was my personal belief, it was just something i heard.
If you actually look at what i wrote you would notice i started it with 'apparently'. That means maybe people are like that.
I also never said it was my personal belief, it was just something i heard.
Apparently and maybe are two different words with two different meanings... you cannot interchange them... maybe deals with possibility/unpossibility or certainty/uncertainty whereas apparently deals with an appearing form of actuality, what is clear and obvious, based on evidence or appearences...they are not synonymous with each other..
Try harder at life.
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I understand what you mean. But it is inevitable to be tackled into a depressive state at some point in your life. I just see it as a low point in life where you have to a make a few choices/decisions in order to smooth things out. I really don't look at it as "I am diseased, there is something wrong with me and I can't do anything about it because I have [insert pseudo scientific medical term here] and I have to take [insert BS placebo pill that will make you dependent on its use here] to feel better."
I think everything in this respect can be explained and worked out by understanding what you want out of life, what you need to focus on and in those respects what kind of choices/decisions you need to make and what you need to believe in and follow in order to hold your mental system together.
I agree with you actually.
I was thinking about all these myriad of labels the other night that people throw around.
In the end, what does it matter? You are who you are, and you have to make the most of who you are, do all you can to improve who you are if there are issues making life difficult and just basically to hell with the labels.
We didn't have all these labels in the early days of man, I bet, but people managed as best as they could.
As, depression, bipolar, all the endless personality disorders cropping up...most are just labels given to the different kinds of personality and brain functioning.
That is my opinion anyway. Having a label doesn't change my life or change the issues, it just lets me know that someone decided to group people with the same traits together and give them a name.
I understand what you mean. But it is inevitable to be tackled into a depressive state at some point in your life. I just see it as a low point in life where you have to a make a few choices/decisions in order to smooth things out. I really don't look at it as "I am diseased, there is something wrong with me and I can't do anything about it because I have [insert pseudo scientific medical term here] and I have to take [insert BS placebo pill that will make you dependent on its use here] to feel better."
I think everything in this respect can be explained and worked out by understanding what you want out of life, what you need to focus on and in those respects what kind of choices/decisions you need to make and what you need to believe in and follow in order to hold your mental system together.
I agree with you actually.
I was thinking about all these myriad of labels the other night that people throw around.
In the end, what does it matter? You are who you are, and you have to make the most of who you are, do all you can to improve who you are if there are issues making life difficult and just basically to hell with the labels.
We didn't have all these labels in the early days of man, I bet, but people managed as best as they could.
As, depression, bipolar, all the endless personality disorders cropping up...most are just labels given to the different kinds of personality and brain functioning.
That is my opinion anyway. Having a label doesn't change my life or change the issues, it just lets me know that someone decided to group people with the same traits together and give them a name.
This issue of labeling things comes up a lot on Tribe (and elsewhere) and there always seems to be a camp of people who, looking at certain specific instances of labels being applied in which they didn't like the outcome, then claim that all labels are always bad in every circumstance and that no good will ever come of them. They conclude therefore that we should have no labels. But where do you stop? Do you stop at labeling "disorders"? Do you stop at labeling personality types? Do you stop at labeling organizations? If I want to get a group of people together to talk about knitting is it okay for me to name the group or is that now also bad because the name is a label? In finding that there is a small error in their map, they conclude that the logical solution is to burn the entire map instead of noting a correction. The one thing that people in the anti-label camp seem unwilling (able is another story) to acknowledge is that there are times when a label is the only thing that helps in a particular situation. Some years ago there was something I wanted in my life and I had no idea how to find it -- for that matter, I had a difficult time even describing it to people, because people didn't seem to understand my explanation of what I was looking for. After a lot of groping around in the darkness I eventually found "intentional communities" (or for that matter "community" in general). Before I found those labels, it was impossible for me to find information about this thing that I wanted. Now that I have those labels, finding that same information is easy. I've found that's rather true of a lot of things. Yes it's true, labels are double-edged. Yes people do use labels to hurt each other, etc. etc. None of that negates the fact that there's a lot of good that also comes from labels - that only ever comes from labels.
Personally I'm really glad that there's a label of "Asperger's Syndrome" it makes it a lot easier for me to research solutions to a host of challenges in my life which before I had no practical means of researching. For me it's just like finding the label of "intentional community" - now that I have the label, research that was impossible before is much easier.
The question is whether or not the good outweights the bad.
There's good in everything. But to what extent and has "the good" been actualized. It's like the natural gas and oil resources in Northern Canada. Lots of good, but it hasn't been actualized. However, more bad is going to come out of the situation as countries fight over who gets it.
There is a lot of potential in psychiatry and its labels, it is just headed in the wrong direction. We want understanding and explanation as to why a person is "disordered". Not symptoms and excuses. Blaming our biology and genetics and trying to pinpoint the problem with that perspective is like walking in the wind, rather than trying to understand how the mind develops with respect to environmental stimuli and pressures. Genetics says Autism is random mutations.... Well guess what, the whole Universe is random so it makes a lot of sense, and thats probably as far as we're going to get... Now we have to understand what environmental stimuli initiated those mutations.
I can relate. It's not really that I get excited by mental problems, but that I assume the person will be more tolerant of me because they have their own issues. I won't get a speech about why medications are unnecessary, or labels are wrong. I feel like I'm decidedly abnormal, and it's nice not to have to deny or suppress the corresponding thoughts and feelings I have.
Of course, it's not all good. People with thought or mood disorders are ok in the short term, but ultimately they'll do some crazy stuff, and aren't the most stable partners.
That just begs for a spur-of-the-moment theory about the relationship doesn't it?
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Perhaps the more attractive a woman is, the more willing people around her are to put up with her sh** ... thus, histrionic women on average are more physically attractive simply because attractive women are allowed to be histrionic more often.
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Well... Ana I must say that I know where you are coming from... I have been cutting myself when low for a long time and if I saw a guy doing it I would probably become quite drawn to him...
I think it's more of a safety thing and it's also 'it takes one to love another'.
My last boyfriend, Stuart, had Aspergers and slight Schizophrenia and we got up to some strange stuff together... He also used to self-injure and I remember taking pleasure in putting Savlon on a burn... Almost feeling as though I were taking care of him or even mothering him... It wasn't even a sexual thing...
I also fell for his best friend, Ash, who used to have Anorexia and had servere mental anxiety (this was at a college for people with emotional/behavioural problems)... We also had a few in-depth conversations about calories and how scary it was to get onto buses... Two things I can totally empathize about. I felt myself really drawn to both of them... Only I ever had any kind of relationship with Stuart and went all the way with him... Then he got VERY paranoid about the possibility of pregnancy.
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