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03 Mar 2023, 11:55 pm

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Yes, I agree very much with what you said. Victim culture has prevailed a little too much. I believe that personal responsibility is a better way towards maintaining mental health.

I believe that so-called "victim culture" has a valid place, insofar as sometimes we really are victims, and it is desirable to have social movements that fight for justice on a societal scale, including disability rights.

But there is certainly such a thing as excessive victim mentality. We need to choose our battles. Although we do face real injustices, it's not productive to blame those injustices for absolutely everything that goes wrong in our lives. Nor is it productive to hate all members of a relatively privileged class (NT's, in our case). We do need to take personal responsibility to do what we can to improve our lives.

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04 Mar 2023, 8:01 am

Mona Pereth wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
Yes, I agree very much with what you said. Victim culture has prevailed a little too much. I believe that personal responsibility is a better way towards maintaining mental health.

I believe that so-called "victim culture" has a valid place, insofar as sometimes we really are victims, and it is desirable to have social movements that fight for justice on a societal scale, including disability rights.

But there is certainly such a thing as excessive victim mentality. We need to choose our battles. Although we do face real injustices, it's not productive to blame those injustices for absolutely everything that goes wrong in our lives. Nor is it productive to hate all members of a relatively privileged class (NT's, in our case). We do need to take personal responsibility to do what we can to improve our lives.
Yes to this ^^^^^


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06 Mar 2023, 7:00 pm

I admit that yes, I am very resentful, although I understand that NT people don't realize a lot of the time the kind of effect they are having on us. I am resentful of the fact that even though I don't try to only make friends with autistic people, it seems to me that it is mostly only other autistic people who are drawn to me. This is hurtful because to me it shows that on some level my behaviour is offputting, when ostensibly, none of it is harmful. Sure, I am very expressive about my love of Ozzy Osbourne's music. Yes, pretty much all of my interests are niche... But shouldn't that be endearing in a way? I know that it is certainly something I find endearing in other people.

I am also resentful of the fact that having to mask and hide myself in secondary school ("highschool" for you Americans) has made me very mentally unwell in a way that is still affecting me 10 years later. I am usually very gentle in my communications with people so I don't think most NT people would even think I am capable of resentment... But I guess I am.



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06 Mar 2023, 10:42 pm

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And I can't ignore the fact that many nts tell me that I deserve to be treated that way.


Probably impossible, impracticable or both, but you need to get these people out of your life skibum.

Is your username related to skiing in any way?
It's not possible to get "these people" out of my life. I get treated like this by almost everyone, even total strangers. I have even had some of my doctors treat me this badly. I would have to become a complete hermit with no contact with any nt at all ever if I was to get these people out of my life. I am not saying that every single nt treats me like this but enough of them do that I cannot avoid them. And yes, my name has to do with skiing.


You rang? 8O

You say that as though it is a bad thing.
Since I became a virtual hermit, life hasn't been better for me. 8)
I don't think being a hermit is a bad thing at all. It might actually be nice. It's just not realistically possible for me.


Work hard for 28 years until you blow a gasket through "autistic burnout".
Having saved "religiously", building your investment portfolio as you go, you can then retire at the age of 50 and enjoy the best part of your life until you "fall off the perch".

But don't try and do it again.
I would kill myself if I had to go through that dreck again, seriously. 8)



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06 Mar 2023, 10:45 pm

I hold no resentment towards most NTs, of course I hold resentment to the ones who still hold negative and harmful stereotypes of autistics and refuse to change their views. But, that resentment has nothing to do with them being NT, it has to do with their views.



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13 Mar 2023, 1:36 pm

I've had resentment towards NT's mainly due, to some persons whom have and still are seeking the proverbial cure for Autism and it's variants as a whole. Come on I don't need no damned cure; yet I'll let said people go waste their time and resources into something that is more or less fruitful.



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13 Mar 2023, 1:58 pm

Resentment toward neurotypical people (in the abstract) is an enormous waste of time. I would heartily recommend anyone who suffers such resentment to let it go.

Your resentment of neurotypical people doesn't bother them one damn bit.



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13 Mar 2023, 3:39 pm

why would i be jealous of nts for
iv always felt so lucky being autistic


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13 Mar 2023, 4:47 pm

Caz72 wrote:
why would i be jealous of nts for
iv always felt so lucky being autistic


I've read you say that before. Why is that? Can you say something more if you like? I'm curious.



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13 Mar 2023, 9:00 pm

Dengashinobi wrote:
Caz72 wrote:
why would i be jealous of nts for
iv always felt so lucky being autistic


I've read you say that before. Why is that? Can you say something more if you like? I'm curious.


certainly

iv never suffered social isolation or depression from being autistic.by that i mean iv never grieved for being the nt i never was
iv always been happy alone.no desire for friends.loving my social isolation.never feeling sorry for myself
iv never wished for one second that i was an nt

maybe because i dont feel things so deeply like some autistic do?.yes i have meltdowns and get angry or scared easily but im still content in who i am

im beautiful i know that.i have quite high self esteem.im just happy


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13 Mar 2023, 9:19 pm

I don't have a resentment towards NT per se, so much as I resent those who don't try to understand those they don't understand. Even if you fail to understand someone, the world would be a much better place if people made an effort.



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13 Mar 2023, 9:34 pm

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Are you resentful towards NTs?

Not in the slightest, although I do have benign envy sometimes.


Me too. I don't resent them as a group, but I do envy many of them for having the skills that I don't, and the better life that that leads to. How I wish I could read non-verbal communication and get those extra pieces of knowledge that most get but I miss and stay ignorant.