Nasty Article in the Daily Mail regarding ASD

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16 Aug 2007, 7:39 pm

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*NYPD mode* Move along folks, just another NT who's angry her kid doesn't hold up to her narcissistic vision of the "perfect" lifestyle. Nothing to see here.

So we sit back and allow such articles to be written unchallenged. I might write to the PCC about it, i will have to see if there is something we can get them on.



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16 Aug 2007, 11:52 pm

I've posted four comments, and they weren't posted.



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17 Aug 2007, 12:55 am

ditto, I posted as well and it wasn't posted, of course. Probably because I said it wasn't the child's fault that all of this happened, it's the fault of those who did not take the time to try to learn.

I'm still highly annoyed by this article, lol. I just can't believe it! Now, granted, if the journalist only asked about the negative things, then of course that is all they are going to get and write about. BUT, it sure is a real ticker when at the end she refers to him as her beautiful, articulate boy after ranting about him for that long. Maybe rather than actually blaming him personally for all of the stuff, she should have said "this happened because we had to divert our attention elsewhere, to try to help"... but then the kicker, I guess she couldn't say that because she was busy trying to force him to wear a hideous orange coat instead.


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17 Aug 2007, 7:03 am

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I've posted four comments, and they weren't posted.

that is normal for the daily mail,they are useless,only bothered about getting people to buy their paper rather than writing decent proper researched articles,should at least be a mix of both.



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17 Aug 2007, 4:56 pm

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I do not find issue within the article itself...it is the title of th article which appalls me, especially as nowhere in that article, that I can see, has that woman called her son a 'monster'. I have posted a comment.


Nope she didn't call her son a monster at one point in the article. Yes, the title I find to be quite appalling, and especially as it's in quotes, designed to make you think the mother has said such things. That in itself is wrong.


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17 Aug 2007, 4:58 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
I've posted four comments, and they weren't posted.


Jeez... yeah dailymail is certainly 'open for opinions' :roll:


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18 Aug 2007, 9:35 am

Just as a footnote...

I trust we DO all know that M&S will refund returned coats with orange linings without question UNLESS you engage in battles of will that culminate in the intended end user peeing on them?

WHAT a load of dysfunctional hogwash!

My GUT feeling is "Why weren't those poor kids taken into care YEARS ago"...except I know what happens to kids in care in UK...

Let's see if they post MY comment...

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18 Aug 2007, 10:24 am

I hate the media-they twist everything. Under the picture too, it says "Jan Greenman with her 'monster' son Luke who is autistic". Another generalization for people to read and get the views all screwed up of anyone with autism. While it's true he had it, I somehow think this is going to turn into one of those people just associate autism with in general, since they generalized it, people won't care of the diagnosis or her behavior. They will just see Asperger's/ADHD/autism=bad.

...and yes, I was slow to notice that, lol. But for some reason felt the need to share that.


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18 Aug 2007, 11:22 am

Cut the mom some slack; this was 15 years ago and no one understood ADHD or asperger's. I'm thankful she didn't commit her son to a psychiatric ward.

She's giving a real account of their life and her/his feelings reaction and I appreciate her for it. People normally don't want to be honest and then they sugar coat everything. And then nothing is ever solved.

Oh...to have been diagnosed in my youth.



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18 Aug 2007, 12:50 pm

Cordelia wrote:
Cut the mom some slack; this was 15 years ago and no one understood ADHD or asperger's. I'm thankful she didn't commit her son to a psychiatric ward.

She's giving a real account of their life and her/his feelings reaction and I appreciate her for it. People normally don't want to be honest and then they sugar coat everything. And then nothing is ever solved.

Oh...to have been diagnosed in my youth.


He was born in the arse end of 91 and according to her, after a diagnosis of encephalitis, it was only when he became a toddler that his more ADHD issues began. He only got tested for AS when he was ten. So assuming toddler is somewhere in the "terrible twos" that makes it more like 12 years ago, and i'm pretty sure they werent that blind to AS back then.

The problem is that for most of the article she seems to be complaining, ranting, and basically being a right cow about her son. Its only at the very end that she comes in with a complimentary phrase, which, by her previous rantings, woudl actually be totally unfounded, There is nothing in there to suggest she thinks he's beautiful or articulate at all.

Have to read the book to get the whole picture methinks. Is this judicious Mail editing, or a book about how crap her son is? I note on her website that the NAS has endorsed the book. There is also an email and snailmail addy, so maybe those unhappy with the Mails comments box could direct some queries there?

Be nice though, because she may not actually be at fault per se. Might just be the neo-nazi Mosleyites at the Mail f*cking us off.


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18 Aug 2007, 2:47 pm

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I suggest a title change for the article, "A Monster Raises a Son With Autism"


HEAR HEAR!! !

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18 Aug 2007, 7:20 pm

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It's too bad that she was in such denial about the problems that her son had and waited so long to get him any form of help: then ignored the advice offered until she was derperate to try something. She blames him for her marriage difficulty, for her not being able to work, for everything. A loving mother does not scapegoat her child and blame him for everything. This woman was too absorbed in wanting her son to be normal to appreciate the positive things about him, the joy he could have brought into her life.

I suggest a title change for the article, "A Monster Raises a Son With Autism"



I can not even fathom calling my autistic children, "Monsters". That is reprehensible to the extreme.


Sadly, most autistic individuals are blamed for everything. I was blamed and punished for the difficulties in my parent's marriage and I cannot tell which is more difficult - being autistic or being the son of parents who are dealing with autism. Autism creates special challenges for the autistic, but it also imposes a burden on families caring for these individuals. More often than not, it is a burden that is deeply resented. And the destructive dynamic that emerges often ruins lives in the most tragic ways.

The woman was only being honest and her bitter portrayal is likely to be archetypal of most families dealing with autism.



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18 Aug 2007, 8:20 pm

That article is absolutely horrible!
I hope that the boy never finds the article while browsing the computer one day.

I have to admit that I have been aggressive at times from people making me do things that I dislike. I have been violent to the point of nearly receiving an assualt charge by my mothers ex partner (well, partner at the time).
But my Mother has never wished that I were dead, or wanted to kill me. (well, that I know of).


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25 Aug 2007, 2:53 pm

I have put my Mum through s**t, starting with the severe mental breakdown and physically attacking a doctor and a nurse in that hospital, having a brush with a criminal record, and I have also bruised her quite a few times during panic attacks, but she still loves me to no end, and knows that deeply, I don't want her to suffer.


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