Which Autism Subtype Are You? Version 2

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I'm thinking Type 2s would probably have some obvious issues with certain aspects of IQ.
So for instance, maybe they have trouble reading/understanding texts, or with spatial awareness (who's always getting lost?) or short-term memory (what was that phone number again?). But at the same time they might be quite talkative, or great at puzzles. So just really variable.

Fantastic! Well done!

As well as being excited about that, there is nothing I like more than putting things and people in groups and categorising them. I suspect I'm not the only one around here who likes doing this

I could understand it to mean that one understands the words a person says but not what they meant by them.

I agree with both of you. I am brilliant at understanding written words and expressing myself in writing. But verbal conversations? People might as well be quacking like ducks and I can't express myself in words very well at all, people always misunderstand me, well 9/10. Even if I'm think I'm being crystal clear.

And about understanding the words but not what they mean. I understand the dictionary meaning of words but never the nuances and emphasis on different words or syllables of words. That goes right over my head.

There's also like...

Having great vocabulary -- yet is communicating using obscured terms to a point that most people won't get it.
And that the way most people communicates is context heavy while not being good at picking up contexts.

Maybe it's a form of caetextia.

I would be Type 1 then. I am not diagnosed maybe because of age. I kinda think I am not diagnosable. But, one reason I think I could be on the spectrum is because I seem to be smart with written words but somewhat dumb elsewhere.

I am not bad at learning a foreign language but I speak more than I understand. I would probably never pick one up one on my own. But, if I had a framework to learn one like I book or if the language follows a pattern like Spanish I could.

Like on an admission test to go to law school I would score better than 70 percent verbally but only 40 percent on the rest of it. That is out of people that are considering law school. At least that test picks up on the fact I wouldn’t make the best lawyer.

I am not saying my verbal IQ is high. It seems to be slightly higher than average. Apparently, having higher verbal can make people better at subjects in school they are not even good at. I seem to get confused easily or get on a wrong train of thought easily.

I am not actually saying I am dumb because I tend to make right decisions even more than smart people. I simply fail to impress people most of the time because I am slow and scatter brained if you go by what comes out of my mouth. Some of that I imagine is that I am not trying to impress people all the time like some people.

I think some it may be because I certainly do not have a full inner monologue going on in my head like some people report to have.

I guess my consciousness is random thoughts rather than an imagined immutable self that speaks words.

That's how it is Edna, well said. I can't get context at all. People think I'm very eloquent and switched on but it's all just because I love words and playing around with them. I don't know the impact of them at all.

And I like to know a new word: caetextia. Thanks.

I wasn't sure where to put myself: very high verbal IQ, much higher verbal than spatial IQ (MR & 3x3 matrix), social communication(classical autism level),anxiety,sensitive

None of those seem particularly suitable.

I test with a fairly high verbal IQ.
I often struggle to understand social norms in context but often can describe them as rules when outside of the context I need to apply them in.
I have poor working memory.
I'm often good at recognizing patterns even when I'm unable to articulate why that pattern appears to exist for me.
I often fail to recognize how I appear to others.

You know in reality you could categorize the categories 1, 3, and 4 as “aspies” and give them sub categories.

It would “aspies” and “non-aspies” as the two main categories.

I think maybe that has been done before?Someone reinvented the wheel, and here am I suggesting the previous version.

Where would non aspies who can pass for aspies go?
How about those who are aspies in paper but not in actuality go?
Then there's 'severe aspies' -- actually aspies but is chuck full of comorbidities to pass as non-aspie; in what line does one draw to this type go?


Because I myself seem to be a hybrid of non-aspie and aspie; and this isn't just my own observation.
Where would someone like me go?

I ranked myself as Type 2.

My IQ is all over the map. I'm very smart but I still have peaks and valleys as described previously. Verbal IQ was 25th percentile and considered low average even though I have degrees in literature and I'm highly literate. I can read and understand texts. I'm bilingual or almost. I've written books and been published. My verbal ability in terms of speaking is low from mutism but that's only one piece of the Verbal IQ measure.

Spatial Awareness: I don't get lost and never have. I've never used GPS in my life. I'm really low in Spatial awareness though, meaning those IQ puzzles where you have to predict how a shape will look after rotations. I can't solve shape puzzles at all. In Maths I excelled with numeracy and algebra but was terrible with 3D planes or graphing. In Art I have a very difficult time with 3D form and sculpture as well.


Short Term Memory: It's bad in a practical sense, like I'll walk in a room and forget why I'm there. If you tell me a string of numbers to say back to you I can do it though. That's likely because I've been told to remember it, and I use synaesthesia to remember the numbers.


Talkative: Not at all. Only write-ative.

Puzzles: I'm really good at jigsaw puzzles and number / word puzzles, but not the shape ones like this:




My RRB are extremely low (severe).
I picked Type 2 because it overlapped into Type 4 (RRB) and Type 3 (Space Cadet).

I don't see myself as Aspie at all because I picture Aspies being very chatty.

I'm an Aspie - high verbal IQ, but I'm not at all chatty. I don't talk much ever, and I've struggled with selective mutism.

Yeah my chattiness varies, I can be chatty when relaxed amongst friends but clam up in other situations.

I'm actually wondering whether it was a good idea naming Type 1 "the aspie", as people may have preconceived notions about what that means and either strongly identify with or against it as a label. (The idea behind that choice was that Aspergers used to be diagnosed for those with intact verbal abilities, and I equated this with the subgroup with high verbal IQ).

Maybe one of the difficulties in parsing out who is Type 1 and who is Type 2 is that there are those of us like Isabella and firemonkey who are very smart with words and writing yet have really spiky profiles with difficulties in spacial awareness and short term memory and the like.

I'm thinking Isabella may be right that Type 2 would be the best fit for this kind of spiky profile, even though you might have really good understanding of words and written language? Whereas Type 1 might have a more level IQ profile without learning difficulties, but perhaps some niggles in how we process speech.

[To be honest, I think the jury's still out on whether these subtypes may be artifacts of the scientists' methodology and not a real thing at all. But I'm having fun seeing where we all think we fit!]

How severe are your restricted, repetitive behaviours (RRBs)?
If your social communication issues are significantly worse than your RRBs, you might be our first Type 3.

(Would it be offensive to call you an "alien"?)

Your profile of traits is very similar to mine, and I've put myself under Type 1 "aspie". As per my previous ramblings, I'm not at all sure I've understood and named the subtypes appropriately! But to me you seem like a Type 1 based on high verbal IQ but some issues around understanding in context.