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30 Sep 2007, 9:17 pm

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I went to see a neurologist and psychologist, and a developmental doctor, those were the three who diagnosed me. The neurologist saw it in my brain which was weird, he showed me what my autistic brain looked like compared to a normal brain, which was even weirder haha.


I've never heard of a developmental doctor. Where exactly do you find one of those? Are they a sub-type of neurologist?? I have read about MRI's showing Aspergers in people, but have never heard of a real AS person actually saying their dr saw a difference in their brain. What part of the brain was different? I still have a set of my MRI films if I only knew what to be looking for.


It was a developmental pediatrician, pediatricians who specialize in developmental disorders, and I don't exactly remember what part of the brain was shown, It was almost 4 years ago, but it was like he showed me a MRI of an NT, and then mine, which showed the difference. Next time I see my neurologist again, I'll ask to see it, I always see those kind of doctors at least once a year, to make sure its autism, not a stupid mistake haha. Thats why I got rediagnosed with HFA, after my first diagnosis of PDD-NOS. I really sometimes think I can pass for NT for like couple hours, but when I went back and got rediagnosed just recently in fact, they told me, I still wasn't considered very high functioning to get diagnosed with Aspergers or HFA, but PDD-NOS could mean that I wasn't autistic enough, or it can mean I just wasn't high functioning enough to be considered Aspergers, and had a lot of traits of classic kanners autism, anyways so they gave me the diagnosis of HFA because it seemed more appropriate, which was the psychologists words, not mine!


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because it seemed more appropriate, which was the psychologists words, not mine!



Which was the reason why I am diagnosed with AS. My psychiatrist thought it was the closest match he could get for me for a diagnoses. I think I understand now why he didn't put me in PDD-NOS; because it's not a real diagnoses and Aspergers is. PDD-NOS probably wouldn't have been good enough for my parents to get power over my school. I am not a true aspie. I keep telling myself it's just a label. There are autistics out there who are being diagnosed as having AS now because that is where they are functioning now instead of higher on the spectrum because they have been given the treatments, so they had outgrown the classic traits of autism. I have even heard Temple is considered AS now. Aspergers, PDD-NOS, autistic, all on the spectrum. I could call myself all three and it wouldn't be a lie. I am on the spectrum. I'd say very mild though.

But Aspergers isn't a real diagnoses my mother says, nor a true diagnoses but my shrinks have thought it is. My last one said it was all a coincidence of how I turned out. My school counselor said the same but he didn't know s**t because he wasn't a trained counsler. My new one is just a student because she is still in school but she is already doing her work she is majoring in to be.



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01 Oct 2007, 10:31 am

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One point about the "inheritability" of AS...

a)it is probably a condition which has a number of causal genes

b) we are beginging to understand that many genes only express in context of environment - a concept called "penetrance". The best way to explain this is by example. Huntingdon's Chorea is a gene with 100% penetrance. If you have the gene, you will have the condition. The genes for Type 2 diabetes probably have penetrance between 50-80%, and obesity is probably the "environmental" trigger - so if you have the gene but remain slim, you may never turn on the genes.

c) we have both our mothers and fathers genes to consider.

Take my family tree

Paternal side

Gt Gfather - highly likely HFA (quirky and spoke late)
Gt Gmother - hihgly likely AS (very intellegent, married very late, belived sex was only for repro)

Gfather - highly likely AS

Father - highly likely AS

Sister1 - NT
Sister 2 - NQ
Brother - HFA
Me - AS

Mother - comes from a whole line of NTs

In the next genaration we have 3 definate spectrum dwellers - all male. I suspect only one of the girls of the next genaration will be on the spectrum

Helen


Also, most likely sex-linked triggers so that females tend to have a lesser phenotype.


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03 Oct 2007, 5:49 pm

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Does your country have programs for people who can't afford doctors and other health stuff?


Here in the USA we do, we have Medicare and Medicade. In my state we have a prgram called Care Oregon and its for people who are under 65 I believe but unfortunitly you have to be on SSI to have it. If you don't have any disabilities that make you qualify for SSI and you don't make enough money to see a doctor, to be on meds, see a dentist, etc. you're deadbeat. I suppose those people have to go to places where they don't charge them if they have low income or they borrow money from their family or beg for money in the streets.


It's ironic too see an American asking a Canadian that question...


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03 Oct 2007, 7:32 pm

To paraphrase Dr Tony Attwood;
"the single most important feature to consider in making a dx of AS is the ability to socialise,
comfortably,intuitively,naturally,spontaneously?"
I have an intellectual concept of 'theory of mind' but I usually work it out the day after the social interaction
I was dx'd by a psychiatrist:"Why don't I have any friends?
Why do I get dumped by girls always?Some1 (my brother,traitor) called me a psychopath (where did that come from) but in reality I'm a friendly sucker.Am I just a neurotic simpleton?But most things are so obvious,logical to me that most other ppl seem simple! Why am I aloof in,afraid of,parties?
etc



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03 Oct 2007, 8:10 pm

I can fake socialize basically by asking other people questions about themselves and not talking about myself at all or talking about neutral topics that don't have anything to do with me or that I am not even interested in. It works with guys and it does NOT work with girls at all. LOL. (boohoo) I think that girls ask each other about themselves and exchange compliments in a way that I have no idea how to do. Oh, well.



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03 Oct 2007, 8:18 pm

oh p.s. I am not going to perform customer service anymore. It bored me and will probably give me cancer if I continue. It made me so pissed off too but the aspies who don't try to socialize get brutally persecuted so ... gack.



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04 Oct 2007, 9:02 am

kiwihelen wrote:
One point about the "inheritability" of AS...


good post. it is important to note that although the evidence for ASD being genetic is pretty strong (comparison of incidence in identical and non-identical twins), that doesn't mean environmental factors can't trigger it - so soaring rates of diagnosed autism don't mean it's not genetic. The 'epidemic' could be caused by unkown environmental factors that trigger these genes (similar to the diabetes epidemic), or by different reproduction patterns that favour ASD-related genetic combinations.



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04 Oct 2007, 9:27 am

From what I understand, asperger's is a neurological disorder, but not one that's easily detected with the average brain monitoring equipment. It's not as clear cut as say schizophrenia that randomly sends out electrical pulses, or even depression that they say is caused by hormone imbalances. It'll take a lot of time for scientists to understand what to look for, in the meantime I'd rather not be a guinea pig.



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26 Sep 2010, 6:24 pm

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Am I correct in believing that AS is a neurological disorder? Because that would mean that your brain is either wired differently, or it's not. In that case, how is it possible to have a mild case of AS? And why do we see psychologists who assess our traits, when a neurologist could detect AS in our brains, right?

I'm not trying to prove a point here, I'm really trying to figure it out. Also, how is it that some people have AS traits and then give birth to full-blown Aspies? It's personality in one generation, then neurological in the next...???

Of course, you have to understand that I'm not a science person and don't know much about genetics, so don't worry about seeming condescending if you want to tell me how that works on a basic level - just don't BE condescending... :wink:


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In the USA, the way the business guilds have marked out the territory is that if you have epilepsy you see a neurologist, if you have Asperger - Autism, you see a psychiatrist.

It's a lot about a business turf war about money.

Both the neurologists and psychiatrists want money and that's how the business pie is divided up today (year 2010).

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