EUGENICS AND AUTISM : A Wake Up Call

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Isn't categorizing ASDs as either good or bad also being dualist though?

<<<<REPLY Well, perhaps that's because I suffer from an autistic spectrum disorder and seem most unfortunately to have an an unavoidable tendency to think that way (dualist,black-and-white) ,that prevents me from enjoying many aspects of human interaction and from functioning very well in work environments!! >>>>

No its not perfect but neither is being "normal".

<<<<REPLY But at least NTs don't expect themselves or life ( or other people,which is why they can be so restful to be with!!) to be perfect,logical or rationally organised ; they don't throw wobblies cos someone doesn't turn up at exactly the time they said etc etc etc!

Better at creating warm loving environments? Then why has nearly every serial killer ever been NT?

<<<<REPLY How many people out of the NT population does that add up to?

The environment created by ASD parents may not be suitable for NTs but it's perfect for ASD children, don't you think?

<<<<REPLY Nope, because I just encourage my son in exactly all the cognitive bad habits which the latest and effective (if unfortunately too rare)therapies would spend years training him out of! Precisely because of my ASD I had immense difficulty understanding him in first months, in relating to him;was in fact exactly the sort of mother who increases the cognitive difficulties her (perhaps) ASD child is going to have!!>>>>

As for seeing and accepting people the way they are we wouldn't even be having this discussion if it were possible for them to understand and accept us. Their solution is "curing" and "prevention" of people like us.

<<<<REPLY Now that some of them are realising that we are not just lazy, selfish, difficult, deliberately obtuse etc , they seem to be as anxious as I am to find out what causes this problem.>>>>

With roles in relationships not all NT relationships are healthy.. in fact very few of them are.

<<<<REPLY Excuse me? ! !! ( extremist? not me!!)

ASDs may cause people to lean towards extremist ideas but that doesn't mean they will act on those ideas in violent and dangerous ways as NTs are prone to do.

<<<<REPLY I'm the only person that I know who has hit a partner on several occasions, thrown liquids onto electrical devices (because they happened to be there),and plates and glass across rooms among other things . On alcohol fueled freedom from the worst social handicaps have ridden with and encouraged other drunk drivers to drive dangerously, etc etc And writing books full of extremist ideas can be dangerous too.etc.>>>>

You're a case of extremism as well. You hate your life, blame your condition and have taken up the extreme viewpoint that it is a disease that must be eradicated. That those of us who are happy being the way we are must be delusional.

But I do wish people would stop arguing against it on the basis that ASD sufferers are wonderful people. As if it would be alright to kill off people who weren't very nice.

Reading this thread has just given me another reason to be pro-life: to keep variety in the human race!

Seriously though, I think it's horrible that some people are so worried about preventing more ASD people from being born when there's much worse diseases out there like AIDS that really should be cured and prevented.

Prioritize, people!

Eugenics. Great for getting a new breed of dog or making the perfect milking cows, but doesn't work when applied to humans.

Unless you think humans should be treated like animals or should have their rights taken away from them (for their own good or not), eugenics is a terrible and insidious way to direct the human race. And if you feel you're in a position to dictate that some humans aren't allowed to procreate because they're inferior... well then you're the one who's less than human.

It doesn't matter if you're trying to get rid of Aspies, Gypsies or Jewsies, eugenics is screwsies.

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