Should people with Aspergers be able to own guns?

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Personally, I think CHO was just psychotic! Don't believe me? READ:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis

Doesn't that look like him?

I think people just figure AS people can seem normal, and can seem scary or odd, and so they are the PERFECT scapegoat!

Hopefully there will be more people like heather to show that AS people are more HARMLESS if anything.

Martin Bryant, the dude who started the whole thing was diagnosed with AS by a psychiatrist, just FYI and all.

It's not "right", but there's the reason why you were denied.

Read this. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=3534240&page=1

Are you sure? He had been diagnosed as mentally ret*d as a child, which would preclude a diagnosis of AS. A psychiatrist working for the prosecution then tried to claim that he was not mentally ret*d (which might have prevented prosecution), but instead had AS. A psychiatrist working for the defense said that he didn't, and I never heard of the court ruling one way or the other, only that he was competent to stand trial.

This is NOT something I ever followed closely, so I could be totally wrong.

That's how it went; he was assessed by a Crown psychiatrist and was deemed to have AS, so he was diagnosed with it, another professor disputed it (the defense), but his diagnosis stands.

Autistic disorder would be a more accurate diagnosis due to his subnormal IQ as a child, but I'm not a psychiatrist.

Wow. The American legal system is screwed up enough that I sometimes look to other countries to see how they do things better, but Australia just moved a lot lower on my list.

Perhaps it wasn't the mental side of Cho, there's many variables I suppose. I don't know much about him, but what if he just had bad depression or something?

Heck, we're all different, maybe he was just heavily into killing others or something. Think of necrophiliacs, it's wrong, but it's just something some people have/do, whether they have ASP or not.

Still, Martin Bryant, argh, his rampage buggered us up.

We Aspies are a group of vulnerable people who are terrified that someone will shoot us if we say or do the wrong thing. We need guns just for protection. Not to use. Just to use if someone else really DOES reach for their back pocket when you say or do something they don't like.

Yeah. I mean, we're always a bit on edge, it doesn't mean we'll shoot the next person who goes "hey" to us, but when dealing with those nutcases, like bald-headed bogans out on the streets, ya know? They might come up and take advantage of you because you can't answer their question or are unsure how to react, next thing, they pull a knife on you and proceed to do a group beating, you're SCREWED unless you have a REAL knife (see "That's not a knife... that's a knife!") or a gun.

I'm not so much into guns for self defense, just easier laws and for collecting etc.

Yeah. I mean, we're always a bit on edge, it doesn't mean we'll shoot the next person who goes "hey" to us, but when dealing with those nutcases, like bald-headed bogans out on the streets, ya know? They might come up and take advantage of you because you can't answer their question or are unsure how to react, next thing, they pull a knife on you and proceed to do a group beating, you're SCREWED unless you have a REAL knife (see "That's not a knife... that's a knife!") or a gun.

I'm not so much into guns for self defense, just easier laws and for collecting etc.

Sword collecting is a wonderfully aspergian hobby! My little whittling pieces are about 47 cm long.

I couldn't agree more. It's not so much the risk of getting shot, but the risk of being attacked, because of the weak body language aspies have sometimes. So some vicious NT will see an aspie walking alone, and attack him just for the fun of it. So what's an aspie to do? Have some of self-defense.

If you still have trouble agreeing with me, read the following poem. I saw it on a billboard in a rural area somewhere.

Violent thugs
Won't dare attack,
If their victim
Might shoot back.

"an armed society is a polite society"

Robert Heinlein

Should people with AS be allowed to have a gun?


I would say "no" and I would equally say no NTs should own a gun. I am against the right to possess weapons. I think only policemen, army staff and security staff should be able to have a gun. I am against the laws allowing private individuals (AS or NT, doesn't matter) to possess weapons. I mean, what sort of society are we creating if every person has a weapon? I would feel totally unsafe in a society where everybody can have a weapon. In Europe most countries disallow it, and thank god for that. Weapons do more harm than they can ever prevent harm.

That's discrimination to say Aspies should not be able to own guns because some guy with Aspergers shot someone. That is like saying that all the cases of NT's shooting someone should prevent them from ever owning a gun.

Cho: certainly sounds like he's on the spectrum:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

But he, like in any other group, is the exception, not the rule.

It can almost be argued that anyone who commits a violent crime has a mental disorder. Can you argue that anyone who has a metal disorder will commit a crime?