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31 Oct 2007, 5:29 am

Ants are everywhere. They're the ultimate survivors. So yeah, they'd be on rooftops too. There was a food source of some sort. Maybe they were feeding off pigeon droppings, or manna from the sky......

How nice it is to find sustenance after being in a state of hunger, thirst and deprivation of the spirit. The gratitude that much stronger. The thanks that much more soul-felt.

I'm all for getting to the nitty gritty and believe in abstaining if needed rather than feel something not being authentic.


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This is how I have chosen to celebrate Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving always falls on a Thursday; and I typically also get the following Friday off. From sun-up until dawn of the next day on Thanksgiving, I fast; water only. And on the night of Thanksgiving, I wander around and sleep outside, with nothing to protect me from the elements but the clothes on my back. One year I slept on the roof of a government administration building that was a couple of blocks from where I happened to be living with my grandmother at the time. The roof was covered with gravel, but I had on sufficient clothing not to be much bothered by it. It was a relatively safe place to sleep - or so I thought. I woke up int he middle of the night to find myself covered with ants! 8O What the hell are ants doing on the roof of a building? (This was in Florida.) That kinda sucked; but therein lies the point.

Anyway, this short and simple annual exercise really helps one appreciate both having food to eat, and warm and safe shelter. I can't tell you how good any food tastes, and how warm and soft a real bed is after doing this...

When I was younger, I'd typically be lucky to get one meal a day; usually generic macaroni and cheese. Living for quite a while like that while I was young has taught me how to ignore hunger pangs, for the most part, which is a useful skill, though can be a deficit if I get caught up in a project. The first time I ever got "busted" for shoplifting, I was trying to steal a jelly roll from Alberston’s, because I hadn't eaten in two days; they let me off with a warning; I was not such a good thief when I was very young.

And, yeah, I did the starving student thing too. It's amazing how far one can go on little more than a packet of Ramen noodles a day.

Good fortune,

- Icarus re-invents all of the holidays in their original spirits...


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31 Oct 2007, 8:59 am

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depends on the cave. They can be cold and damp and dripping water, but better than just a few feet from the mouth of it!

Bummer you got ripped off wsmac :(


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Well obviously just as you'd be selective in choosing an apartment or house, so you would in choosing a cave. No? Why would anyone want to live in a damp, wet cave (longer than a day that is) when there are so many others to choose from?

That's a hypothetical query btw. Devil's advocate not playing.



yeah, too bad other caves were not on my Realtor's tour that month. I will ask her to turn in her licence for not showing me to the dry cozy caves that were obviously NOT AVAILABLE at the time. :roll:

Merle



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31 Oct 2007, 10:07 am

Hungry?

Yes!

Hungry For Equality!

/rebel



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31 Oct 2007, 10:22 am

If you're planning on moving to a cave, the time to scope them out is when you've got alternative shelter, like now. Then you make a map, leave inconspicuous landmarks that only you can figure out.




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depends on the cave. They can be cold and damp and dripping water, but better than just a few feet from the mouth of it!

Bummer you got ripped off wsmac :(


jjstar wrote:
Well obviously just as you'd be selective in choosing an apartment or house, so you would in choosing a cave. No? Why would anyone want to live in a damp, wet cave (longer than a day that is) when there are so many others to choose from?

That's a hypothetical query btw. Devil's advocate not playing.



yeah, too bad other caves were not on my Realtor's tour that month. I will ask her to turn in her licence for not showing me to the dry cozy caves that were obviously NOT AVAILABLE at the time. :roll:

Merle


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31 Oct 2007, 12:03 pm

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Were you ever homeless?
yes and let me tell you it sucked. i would have liked it more if i could take a bath. heres one of the rescue missions i stayed at. (it was terrible)

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31 Oct 2007, 12:11 pm

Mirel wrote:
Hungry?

Yes!

Hungry For Equality!

/rebel



Are all people created equal? Equal in which way?


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31 Oct 2007, 12:15 pm

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01 Nov 2007, 8:52 pm

jjstar wrote:
If you're planning on moving to a cave, the time to scope them out is when you've got alternative shelter, like now. Then you make a map, leave inconspicuous landmarks that only you can figure out.




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depends on the cave. They can be cold and damp and dripping water, but better than just a few feet from the mouth of it!

Bummer you got ripped off wsmac :(


jjstar wrote:
Well obviously just as you'd be selective in choosing an apartment or house, so you would in choosing a cave. No? Why would anyone want to live in a damp, wet cave (longer than a day that is) when there are so many others to choose from?

That's a hypothetical query btw. Devil's advocate not playing.



yeah, too bad other caves were not on my Realtor's tour that month. I will ask her to turn in her licence for not showing me to the dry cozy caves that were obviously NOT AVAILABLE at the time. :roll:

Merle


Why do you post at the top of the quote?

Just curious



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01 Nov 2007, 8:54 pm

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jjstar wrote:
Were you ever homeless?
yes and let me tell you it sucked. i would have liked it more if i could take a bath. heres one of the rescue missions i stayed at. (it was terrible)

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goodness, richardbenson! I learned, just like you did, to avoid the missions unless you are deathly ill. What horrible places!

Merle