Asperger's people think too much compared to NTs

Page 3 of 5 [ 66 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

woodsman25
Supporting Member
Supporting Member

User avatar

Joined: 18 May 2007
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,064
Location: NY

10 Nov 2007, 2:17 am

I definatly beleive I tend to over analize more then the average person. Particularly when socilizing after having a conversation or seeing someone, and if something happened that was different, or an agrument, orthe other party got mad or upset with me for whatever reason ill go babck and really think about what heppened, who said what and see how I felt wether or not I was wrong, after that ill try and come up with ways to correct the problem in the future if I determine I screwed up or even if someone else screwed up instead.


_________________
DX'ed with HFA as a child. However this was in 1987 and I am certain had I been DX'ed a few years later I would have been DX'ed with AS instead.


PLA
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 May 2007
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,929
Location: Sweden

10 Nov 2007, 5:25 am

The "super-race" thing sounds like BS to me...
Ignorance can be bliss...
If - for example - I were to be oblivious to even my obliviousness*, I couldn't care about it, and subsequently not fret over it...
Ignorance works well, to an extent...

But that does still feel like something of which to be ashamed.


*I tried to find a better word, but hey, "-ness" works.


_________________
I can make a statement true by placing it first in this signature.

"Everyone loves the dolphin. A bitter shark - emerging from it's cold depths - doesn't stand a chance." This is hyperbol.

"Run, Jump, Fall, Limp off, Try Harder."


KevinLA
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Nov 2007
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 741
Location: United States

10 Nov 2007, 11:21 am

I am wondering if thinking and analyzing too much is part of AS or is it OCD?



CentralFLM
Deinonychus
Deinonychus

User avatar

Joined: 5 Sep 2007
Age: 50
Gender: Male
Posts: 302

10 Nov 2007, 11:57 am

I sort of disagree with the title of this. I believe we think equally. Unfortunately, I think sometimes Aspies think too long about the wrong things, while other important things in our lives get left out. Now this major obsession we have with certian things can be very productive in the case of Edison or Henry Ford, but I think a lot of what we think about goes by the waistside. NT people think a hell of a lot about relationships, friends, family, emotions, etc. The older I get the more I believe that these things are not such bad things to think about. We think about things, that will eventually rust and return back to the Earth. Relationships are arguably eternal.



Angelus-Mortis
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 8 Oct 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 438
Location: Canada, Toronto

10 Nov 2007, 12:34 pm

That depends, really. Different things are important to different people, and NT's who think about relationships a lot do so only because they believe it is important to them. However, other people, possibly Aspies may not value relationships as much, and don't think much about them. I myself, see not much of benefits in thinking too much about relationships. I don't really feel inclined to think much about relationships unless it has anything to do with the logic behind them. I however, value math and logic, and tend to think about them a lot. I would like to think that those things are eternal to me because mathematics has been a part of the human world for a long time, and they use it, even if people don't realize it. If thinking about relationships might get people anywhere, perhaps people would be more successful, but people are irrational, and do irrational things with relationships that causes them to do things that hurt their relationships. Which is why I prefer logic to relationships.


_________________
231st Anniversary Dedication to Carl Friedrich Gauss:
http://angelustenebrae.livejournal.com/15848.html

Arbitraris id veneficium quod te ludificat. Arbitror id formam quod intellego.

Ignorationi est non medicina.


DGuru
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 283

01 Nov 2010, 2:11 am

Aspie1 wrote:
I find myself asking a lot of questions about society. In particular, I find myself wondering about reasons for why people act the way they do. Why do we have all those "rules" everybody needs to follow? (Example: when sitting in a movie theater, you can't put your coat over your lap.) What's the logic behind them? Who created those rules in the first place? And what was that person's logic to make up the rule? Do the rules appear spontaneously, or is there a process for creating one? Who decides whether or not a rule should be enacted? Is there an exclusive society that makes up the rules for the rest of the people to follow? Why doesn't anyone care how the rules are made? Why doesn't anyone want to know these things?

For clarification, "rules" does not refer to laws or any formal regulations. It refers to dumb social rules that NTs follow blindly, and harass the people who break them, even if they weren't aware of it. Now that I rambled enough, I'm sure you can understand my thought process compared to that of NTs.


Not only do I think about that, but I've made theories.

For example, the bland, formal, often uncomfortable attire people are expected to wear in "professional" settings is based on a social expectation of "annonymity" in business settings. The people you work with are not interested in you as a person, they just want to make money, so revealing too much about yourself to them right away is considered "unwise". Over time as more people take to dressing plainer to avoid possible negative judgements it became a norm. Then it became institutionalized and formal rules were laid out for "professional dress".

It is because under capitalism work is separated from our daily lives. The owners of the means of production think of everyone working for them or dealing with them as "mere means" to an end, the end of making more profit. The system turns us all into "cogs" in the machine where individuality and original thinking is not valued. The people in charge want to deal with people as objects and not have to be reminded that they are human beings.

I didn't read about this, but I have a feeling there have been writers who have said things to similar affect.

We have a culture that paradoxically praises individualism and nonconformity and upholds the capitalist system as being the economic manifestation of this, but then it creates a culture that pushes conformity. I once read about how in the 1950s you'd almost always find every person working at a business would buy the exact same drink at the bar and if you didn't people think you were being rude and not a team player even though the drink you chose has nothing to do with whether you are contributing or productive.

Its funny how the diagnostic criteria includes adherence to strange rules and routines. I think NTs have some very strange rules and routines which when examined tend to be completely irrational or only rational when applied to some very unsavory ends.

The funny thing is when I saw that line in the criteria I thought "that doesn't describe me, that describes everybody else." For a long time this little observation sustained my denial.



kat_ross
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Age: 37
Gender: Female
Posts: 205

01 Nov 2010, 2:44 am

When it comes to dwelling on mistakes that I have made in the past, I DEFINITELY feel that I over-analyze things. The only memories that really stick in my mind are the horrible embarrassing ones, and whenever I get depressed, I have a "blooper reel" of all things humiliating that starts playing in my head, going all the way back to when I was 5 or 6.

However, when it comes to contemplating life, finding patterns, etc...I am sort of glad that I don't have a "typical" brain. From a very young age, I would have these moments of realization, in the middle of thinking about something, where I would go "I'm pretty sure other kids don't think like this." But then I would brush it off, and tell myself that I wasn't special and I had no way of knowing what went on in other people's heads. But it kept happening. My mind would be going a mile a minute, making all sorts of connections, after being triggered by something so seemingly insignificant. I would hear a boring word or phrase, and then suddenly I would be contemplating the meaning of life, lol. I would get this strong feeling that other people were missing out because they couldn't see things the way that I did. Like they were all focusing on things that were insignificant and I saw the world for what it really was. But at the same time I'm kind of missing out on having a normal life, so I guess there is a trade-off. I don't really know what to think now.



League_Girl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Feb 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 27,280
Location: Pacific Northwest

01 Nov 2010, 3:19 am

I tend to analyze things and it drives me crazy sometimes. I mean why even bother thinking about it if it already happened? It's not going to solve anything and sometimes I get paranoid. It's just hard to control.



pensieve
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Nov 2008
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,204
Location: Sydney, Australia

01 Nov 2010, 4:00 am

I love to think and analyze. My thinking isn't negative it's more thinking about impossible inventions or concepts or finding patterns in everyday things.


_________________
My band photography blog - http://lostthroughthelens.wordpress.com/
My personal blog - http://helptheywantmetosocialise.wordpress.com/


lostD
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Dec 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 560

01 Nov 2010, 4:22 am

KevinLA wrote:
To the people who say thinking and analyzing is a good thing. I would much rather be walking around with my head in the clouds like it appears NTs do and have their social skills. Just because they don't think about and analyze everything doesn't mean they are dumb. Do NTs overlook things that AS people do? Absolutely. But I don't think anyone would argue that as a whole NTs are much happier than AS people. What is more important than being happy?


I just wanted to say that it is so funny how you use "head in the clouds" because in my country most people use it to talk about people who think and analyse too much because they are daydreaming even though they are not using their imagination to create a dream in this case. You know, the story of that man who was looking at the stars and fell in the well (I am sorry I forgot his name).

Anyway, my friends (except one but she is almost like me) and family always say that I think too much, my teachers said that sometimes, at least in high school because I was more of a "ret*d" in primary school (though I have asked some strange questions about the self and the thoughts in our heads if we never existed when I was 6) but my professors love this though they feel that sometimes it prevents me from succeeding because I go to far in my analysis and questionning.

I do not think it's a good thing to analyse and think too much (as I said to my best friend : I can't stop it, I have to analyze everything to live) but it's a good thing to analyse and think in general because it makes you more aware of the world in which you are living.

However, as you know, the fool is happy but we've never heard of an intelligent and happy man in popular culture.

Though, in my opinion, people feel happiness differently. Some people want to get married, need to have friends and children to feel happy. I, on the other hand, feel euphoric when I am reading or working on linguistics or when I am thinking and analyzing. It's just that sometimes the consequences of our thoughts can be depressing (realizing some things about life in general), I think it's mostly instructive and may prevent us from the deceiving myths our culture impose us.



Ai_Ling
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Nov 2010
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,891

17 Feb 2011, 12:37 am

Yeah at times I do hate that I over-analyze everything and Ive gotten into a lot of trouble in the past because of that. I realized particularly when it came to social situations, the fact that I over-analyze everything might actually be a good thing considering that I am aspie. NTs can process social situations fairly quickly. If I didnt analyze things, I wouldnt catch onto a lot of the things I catch onto. I wouldnt have come nearly as far as I have socially, in realizing my mistakes, analyzing how to imitate NTs, figure things out socially. I've come very far within the past few years that that would have never happened if I didnt analyze things.



dunbots
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Jan 2011
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,721
Location: Washington, USA

17 Feb 2011, 1:21 am

Maybe NTs just don't think enough. ;)

Well, that is certainly true.



DeusMechanicus
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 13 Feb 2011
Age: 39
Gender: Female
Posts: 54
Location: England (I prefer Mars)

17 Feb 2011, 3:17 am

It is not that Aspies think too much, it is that others do not think enough.
A life absent of introspection is not a valid expression of true consciousness



astaut
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Sep 2009
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,777
Location: Southeast US

17 Feb 2011, 6:52 am

I overthink things a lot and I end up driving myself crazy with worry. It's one of my biggest problems.


_________________
After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.
--Spock


jackbus01
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Feb 2011
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,197

17 Feb 2011, 7:40 am

Actually NT people think far too little.
They need others to tell them what to think. You see this everywhere. They need to be told what is popular and fashionable etc.
It is a big advantage most people on the AS have.



Verdandi
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Dec 2010
Age: 55
Gender: Female
Posts: 12,275
Location: University of California Sunnydale (fictional location - Real location Olympia, WA)

17 Feb 2011, 8:04 am

I don't think too much - but I do think a lot - and I enjoy my introspection most of the time.