Why do ppl base intelligence on IQ scores?

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You ARE right about THAT! There are generally about 7 IQs. Most people give a composite from a standard test measuring 3-4. I would say I am probably ret*d in about 2 of the others. If you just looked at THOSE two, though I don't know if anyone has quantified them, I MIGHT score as high as 80. And THAT is probably HIGH for most here. Still, I am middle aged, and certainly should be a LOT better.

BTW The two I am talking about are inter-personal(social, and almost a required deficit for autistics) and physical(A popular comorbid for autistics).

But HEY, nobody is perfect.

I've seen some pretty dumb IQ tests. But many people here HAVE said they don't trust online IQ tests. I'm sure the "sophistication" of such tests is one reason they feel that way.

And spammers probably make suc claims to try to add fuel to the fire.

As for worth, or success, it would be NICE if a simple test, such as one to determine IQ, could determine that. I don't think anyone here has claimed that. I certainly haven't.

It doesn't matter, because the reality that the test uncovers can be changed. Skills are acquired and it's amazing what skills might be acquired.

What's the point of replying that to me?
I haven't even addressed the implications of iq.
My post only stems from the fact that there exists iq bragging - meaning that whatever you have or have not claimed or whether everyone agrees with you on that point is unrelated.

'cause they're stupid.

Possibly the best argument against obsessions with IQ scores is the person with highest IQ:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_vos_Savant

Besides the fact that she have highest known IQ,there is nothing more about her.
By IQ definition,she is genius,but only thing that is genial about her is the fact that she have genial IQ.

P.S

I never met any person on internet forums that didn't claimed IQ lower then 130,and I know for fact that they are liars,since less then 10% of people statistically have this IQ.

For more critical approach to this subject,read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mismeasure_of_Man

What is your meaning behind that......How does it provide some indication?




Don't you wonder why you are curious about taking them? Are you telling me with 100% honesty that you had no intention of satisfying something about your own intelligence before taking them. Honestly; I don't think people take them on their own time "just for fun." I think you are lieing(Sp).





I don't think its crazy at all. Some people try harder to appear more intelligent than others. Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses; and many may not appear what people measure as "intelligence."

I guess that wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if you do not view other people like cattle and sheep though .



I don't think that you do; but you do seem to place some indication on your IQ score.



Nope; I know that I am different from everyone else. I have never meet a single person in my life who acts or thinks like me(Regardless of whether or not they are neurotypical or autistic). Whether or not that makes me "special" doesn't really matter that much to me. Like I said before; I view people as cattle and sheep .

And some appear more intelligent than others because they are in fact more intelligent than others.

Well; it's only natural for me to view every other member of the human species as equals. In America; society enforces that some people are born better or smarter than others. I do not agree with this.

I'm definately deficient in those. I was thought to be ret*d in grade school.

Don't know what my IQ would be if I were tested today. Possibly 120+ judging by achievement test scores and their correlation with IQ; the fact that I've never applied myself to school work to my fullest might also factor in. If I scored in the average range, I wouldn't be surprised. Nor would I be surprised if I scored off the charts overall(I took a practice MENSA test and nearly scored every question correct on it, but it didn't give an IQ score). I've never been able to apply myself properly either due to depression, laziness, frustration, or fear, and whether a person applies theirself is what really matters. An IQ test won't determine that. It just determines how well you take an IQ test, as many have repeatedly pointed out.


IQ tests are a flawed concept. Many people don't understand the questions, wheras if they did, they'd arrive at correct answers. IQ tests label and brand children and due to a low score, their intellectual growth in areas they might excel could be stunted after being placed in remedial classes simply because the test never determined that they were good in these areas even if they were demonstrating skills well above their developmental level outside of the test setting. IQ tests have a racial bias due to the nature of many of the questions as well; exposure to the topics that 'crystallized intelligence' measures are heavily dependent upon factors such as socio-economic status.

Is it because you have doubts about your own intelligence?

Brian::
Don't you wonder why you are curious about taking them? Are you telling me with 100% honesty that you had no intention of satisfying something about your own intelligence before taking them. Honestly; I don't think people take them on their own time "just for fun." I think you are lieing(Sp).


nomnom:
Or maybe its just acuz I don't want to be the least intelligent person. Whether or not I'm the most intelligent makes no difference.

And when people seem to be bragging and rubbing it in your face that they have a higher IQ its just that they are excited that they arent as stupid as they thought they were and your being overly sensitive?


Goodness knows its because they see you as extremely intelligent and special and its both a great surprise and dissapointment that they are actually better than you seem to be? Whether or not you care is a completely different topic. They do and so they do.

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I take online ones for fun. I love logic puzzles, patterns, shapes, analogies, and numbers. Scores from online IQ tests are renown for their innaccuracy and mean nothing to me.

There are likely to be others who treat these tests the same way.

I like taking all kinds of quizzes and stuff just for fun, like the Whats your RealAge quiz.

I also enjoy typing "quizzies" into a search engine and taking those.

Most of these things don't have any real basis... People have always achieved in separate and diverse topics of interests since day one.. Now if you are ecclectic; good for you!

I don't think IQ means anything, especially for the Autistic who interprete instructions differently and have skewed talents and disabilities.

There are different intelligences, I think most people have strenghts and weaknesses that cannot be tested or put into practical form to be tested.

The ultimate goal here is to be sucessful, happy, and create a positive impact on the world and the people around us.

Best,

Idaho Aspie