Is there a difference between HFA and AS?

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anbuend
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17 Dec 2007, 3:04 pm

Hmm. I'm dxed with autism and I do like to socialize (not all the time, and less than most people, but I do like it given the right people and circumstances and so forth). Also I think what people do on these boards is socializing, so I find it kind of strange listening to people socializing over talking about not liking to socialize. :)

I think autistic people (whether diagnosed AS or autism or PDD-NOS) range the full range from highly extroverted to highly introverted. And I have known people who were always dxed LFA who when they got a way to communicate said that they really wanted to socialize but everyone always read their body language wrong as if they didn't, so I wouldn't want to make assumptions that dx of autism, or even being categorized as aloof, means not wanting to socialize (those assumptions can be devastating to people who are very lonely but nobody takes their social needs into account because they're assumed not to have them).

Also, being non-verbal for awhile is considered a language delay, because it delays how old you are when you start talking.

The other things they look for are loss of previous language (which I had, and stopped talking for awhile) and certain kinds of abnormal language once the person does start talking (which can mean even if there was no delay in when the person started talking). Those include echolalia, pronoun reversals, and a few other unusual sorts of language use. Any or all of those can move a person from an AS to an autism diagnosis, officially.


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17 Dec 2007, 3:21 pm

busy91 wrote:
Age1600 wrote:

I agree with u on that one, I don't have any care in the world to socialize, growing up, had no interest at all for people, rather be in my room disappearing in my own world.



You are HFA right?
I really don't know the difference between the two. Other than what was said here.
I'm just like you. I want to be alone, don't mind it. People ask If I get lonely, I tell them no, they think it is strange.


Yea i know what u mean, its so much better to be in my own world, i literally disappeared into my own world, dropped out of hs in sophomore year for like 6months, i even wrote about it as my fantasy land. if you ever want to read it let me know.


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17 Dec 2007, 3:23 pm

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if you ever want to read it let me know.


yes please. you can send me a pm.


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17 Dec 2007, 3:28 pm

[quote="anbuend"]

Aloof (actively avoiding social contact, or appearing not to even notice social contact when it's initiated).
Passive (allowing social contact if someone else initiates it, but not initiating).
Active-but-odd (initiating social contact, but doing it in a way that most people wouldn't do it).
Formal (dealing with social contact in a manner that seems too formal for casual occasions, but staying in that formal mode all the time).
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These categories have been very helpful, thank you. I would say i fall into the first three depending on what type of mood i am in.


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17 Dec 2007, 3:35 pm

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Aloof (actively avoiding social contact, or appearing not to even notice social contact when it's initiated).
Passive (allowing social contact if someone else initiates it, but not initiating).
Active-but-odd (initiating social contact, but doing it in a way that most people wouldn't do it).
Formal (dealing with social contact in a manner that seems too formal for casual occasions, but staying in that formal mode all the time).


These categories have been very helpful, thank you. I would say i fall into the first three depending on what type of mood i am in.

I'm like that too. mostly in the first two, but at times that I'm in a better(more in contact with the outside world) state mentally and emotionally I pull off no.3 very well.


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17 Dec 2007, 4:32 pm

I was diagnosed with HFA, though I have my doubts
I did have speech/language delays, but I'm caught up, so who cares?
I do sometimes have desires to socialize, but most of the time I have nobody to socialize with and end up feeling lonely. I constantly feel like I'm being ignored.



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17 Dec 2007, 4:54 pm

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. I constantly feel like I'm being ignored.


Yes, I feel this way too. I feel very ignored, and often.

I don't get lonely though, just mad.


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17 Dec 2007, 6:35 pm

anbuend wrote:
Hmm. I'm dxed with autism and I do like to socialize (not all the time, and less than most people, but I do like it given the right people and circumstances and so forth). Also I think what people do on these boards is socializing, so I find it kind of strange listening to people socializing over talking about not liking to socialize. :)

I think autistic people (whether diagnosed AS or autism or PDD-NOS) range the full range from highly extroverted to highly introverted. And I have known people who were always dxed LFA who when they got a way to communicate said that they really wanted to socialize but everyone always read their body language wrong as if they didn't, so I wouldn't want to make assumptions that dx of autism, or even being categorized as aloof, means not wanting to socialize (those assumptions can be devastating to people who are very lonely but nobody takes their social needs into account because they're assumed not to have them).

Also, being non-verbal for awhile is considered a language delay, because it delays how old you are when you start talking.

The other things they look for are loss of previous language (which I had, and stopped talking for awhile) and certain kinds of abnormal language once the person does start talking (which can mean even if there was no delay in when the person started talking). Those include echolalia, pronoun reversals, and a few other unusual sorts of language use. Any or all of those can move a person from an AS to an autism diagnosis, officially.

Am second this.
am think it's not realistic to use socialisation as a difference between the two because auties can be extremely sociable,and aspies can be fine without socialising.
Am have autism,and am not a social/human seeker beyond forum post socialising but have lived with other auties who were hyper social.


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17 Dec 2007, 9:39 pm

You know, autism/Asperger's probably exacerbates the differences in personality: my mother is "normal", but she has no desire to interact with people (barring meeting with a friend now and again). "Aloof" to "odd".

Researchers tend to lump all people who appear aloof into that category; my dealings with professionals have been less than stellar in their questions, i.e., 'Do you want to meet people?' The question is far too open, 'not really.' The thing is, I cannot adequately make my point known verbally; I most likely appear aloof (it's besides the point that I don't want to socialize out there).

I've always been "aloof" when I've been in my "bad" periods; passive in my "good" ones.