Would u take a pill that would make you normal for a day?

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Would you, and if you liked the outcome would you prescribe to it?
Yes, I would try it for a day and if I liked it would use it everyday 39%  39%  [ 36 ]
Yes, I would but just to try it out once, I would not use it anymore after that 36%  36%  [ 33 ]
No, I like the way I am best 25%  25%  [ 23 ]
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22 Dec 2007, 7:59 pm

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Not for a million dollars.


i wouldnt even take it if you offered me every single strap in the world to be totally mummy wrapped in them...


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22 Dec 2007, 8:05 pm

I find this most illogical. For me to become "normal" would be most abnormal.

No, this I would not do.


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22 Dec 2007, 8:13 pm

I can only assume you are talking about some cyanide salt in pill form. I'm not falling for it.

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22 Dec 2007, 8:21 pm

Such a pill may actually exist. Many autistics have a reduced blood flow to the brain that may result in autistic traits. One study gave a drug called pentoxifylline which improves blood circulation to 23 autistic children and 10 of the 23 improved enough while on the drug that they no longer were considered autistic. I believe they would all become autistic again if they stopped taking the drug since it doesn't cure the cause of the abnormal circulation.

"Pentoxifylline was given to a child with autism in Japan to treat suspected brain damage from an accident (57,58). After this treatment, the boy showed marked improvement of his autistic symptoms. When 23 children with autism were treated with pentoxifylline (150-600 mg/day), the drug was reported to be remarkably effective in 10 of the children with some of the group no longer considered to be autistic. The drug was also very effective in treating seizures. Side effects included nausea, vomiting, low blood pressure, and headache. Since the primary use of this drug is to improve blood circulation, you may find it difficult for a physician to prescribe it to treat autism."
From http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/book/bk7sect2.html



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22 Dec 2007, 8:35 pm

zendell wrote:
Such a pill may actually exist. Many autistics have a reduced blood flow to the brain that may result in autistic traits. One study gave a drug called pentoxifylline which improves blood circulation to 23 autistic children and 10 of the 23 improved enough while on the drug that they no longer were considered autistic. I believe they would all become autistic again if they stopped taking the drug since it doesn't cure the cause of the abnormal circulation.

"Pentoxifylline was given to a child with autism in Japan to treat suspected brain damage from an accident (57,58). After this treatment, the boy showed marked improvement of his autistic symptoms. When 23 children with autism were treated with pentoxifylline (150-600 mg/day), the drug was reported to be remarkably effective in 10 of the children with some of the group no longer considered to be autistic. The drug was also very effective in treating seizures. Side effects included nausea, vomiting, low blood pressure, and headache. Since the primary use of this drug is to improve blood circulation, you may find it difficult for a physician to prescribe it to treat autism."
From http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/book/bk7sect2.html

Hmm. If there is truth in what you say, I say in complete seriousness that Viagra might also help. 8O I s**t you not. I have never taken Viagra myself; but I got into a long discussion with my doctor about drugs and their alternate uses; and he mentioned that high-altitude mountain climbers sometimes use it, exactly because it encourages better circulation, one effect of which is to increase oxygenation of brain tissue.

Viagra for autism; encouraging an erection of the brain, so to speak. I think I just tripped and fell through the looking glass into Bizzaro world.

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22 Dec 2007, 8:55 pm

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Hmm. If there is truth in what you say, I say in complete seriousness that Viagra might also help. Shocked I sh** you not. I have never taken Viagra myself; but I got into a long discussion with my doctor about drugs and their alternate uses; and he mentioned that high-altitude mountain climbers sometimes use it, exactly because it encourages better circulation, one effect of which is to increase oxygenation of brain tissue.


It would depend on how much it improves circulation. I believe pentoxyfilline was designed to improve circulation as opposed to that being a good side effect. Many common supplements (I believe ibuprofin/Advil is one) affect circulation somewhat although not nearly as much as drugs specifically designed for it. Heparin would probably help autism as well although it can be dangerous - I wouldn't try it. It works well in treating hypercoagulation in CFS and one study showed that 10 of 10 autistics tested also had hypercoagulation. I think it also depends on why circulation is impaired and whether the drug can treat the specific reason for it.



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22 Dec 2007, 10:46 pm

I'm always nervous about chemicals that are "mind altering" in nature. But really, how can anyone be sure that it works? Can someone who is an Aspie or Autie take the pill and tell someone, this is exactly what it feels like to think like you? No one has that experience of both sides of the spectrum to be able to confirm that you really are an AS person thinking like an NT. You could just be thinking differently to how you normally do and just think, wow, this must be how NT's think.


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23 Dec 2007, 5:19 am

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I find this most illogical. For me to become "normal" would be most abnormal.

No, this I would not do.


*agrees*

I would hate to disappear.


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23 Dec 2007, 8:34 am

If it were only for one day? Well, if it were only for one day, I'd try it out. I have no interest to compare a neurotypical life (which neurotypical life though?) to that of myself, and then compare which is better, which may be worse. I would want to do it to expand my horizon, to experience something no person can experience. If it's a neurotypical life - the better it is, for it promises a more different view of a the world than that of another autistic person.

For the sake of science, I'd jump at the opportunity right away!
If it is safe that is!
If not, oh, I wouldn't want to try it, because I'd be too much in fear of having my brain damaged and being stuck as a neurotypical.



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27 Dec 2007, 3:00 pm

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having my brain damaged and being stuck as a neurotypical.


:lol:

Yes, NTs sometimes really do act as if they have brain damage.


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27 Dec 2007, 6:14 pm

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Yes, NTs sometimes really do act as if they have brain damage.


Go to any city in the land and you can easily find living proof.



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27 Dec 2007, 6:55 pm

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If not, oh, I wouldn't want to try it, because I'd be too much in fear of having my brain damaged and being stuck as a neurotypical.


Lol! I didn't think about that.

But yes, I would be tempted to try it for one day, to know how it feels to be NT.



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27 Dec 2007, 7:19 pm

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My AS is less bothersome than most, so no, I'd stay the same.

I guess I wouldn't change much either, but I might understand my family better, which would be worth it.



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27 Dec 2007, 10:15 pm

You would have to better define "normal". NT?

Personally I just want to be more at ease and happier. Not all NTs have that, so it wouldn't really make much of a difference if I could wake up one morning, be better at "getting" people if it didn't give me what I want most. Though, come to think of it, if I did "get" people maybe I would be more at ease and happier. It would be worth a try.



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28 Dec 2007, 12:26 am

Hell, I would take anything for just one day. I don't know what the definition of "normal" is.. I have always defined it as average, or mediocre. So I can't say this pill would be very enlightening. I would most likely not do it again.


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28 Dec 2007, 8:13 am

Me too...I'll try anything once, even being *normal*...

They do say "don't knock it till you've tried it, after all...

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