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05 Feb 2008, 6:04 pm

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If an autistic person does chelation (to get rid of mercury) and takes anti-virals and anti-fungals (to cure infectious diseases) and the treatment makes the kid NT, would you have a problem with it?

I do have a problem with it. But I am sure there is some cases where I would have no problem with it.

It wouldnt make the kid NT because the kid is always going to be autistic. We can change behaviour by treating people with various methods but this is artificial and they are still autistic.

You're assuming its always genetic. If someone removes mercury and viruses and becomes NT, I'd say that proves their autistic symptoms weren't genetic.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:14 pm

zendell wrote:

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zendell wrote:

If an autistic person does chelation (to get rid of mercury) and takes anti-virals and anti-fungals (to cure infectious diseases) and the treatment makes the kid NT, would you have a problem with it?

You're assuming its always genetic. If someone removes mercury and viruses and becomes NT, I'd say that proves their autistic symptoms weren't genetic.

If someone was legit poisoned by mercury and recovered by chelation, then they were never autistic to begin with.

Some of those who believe in the mercury-autism theory agree with me.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:15 pm

Baxter Video:

the before videos weren't that bad... lol all kids do that stuff... all she had to say was that he drooled and pooped his pants a lot :roll: and woo hoo... i learned to read and write at age 6 too! let's see an update much later.... or at least some videos of his "changes" with the vaccinations.

Ethan video:

maybe he had some comorbid fungal things.... but did you notice all the hand flapping he was still doing when "cured" lol and he still wasn't looking at his dad while interacting with him.

maybe these kids experience discomfort or whatever due to fungal things... but i know i'm a lot less interacting when i don't feel well and im not even DXed.

these videos are not a whole story by far.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:18 pm

beau99 wrote:

If someone was legit poisoned by mercury and recovered by chelation, then they were never autistic to begin with.

Some of those who believe in the mercury-autism theory agree with me.

That means if you've never tried chelation, then you can't be sure you are autistic There aren't any good tests for mercury so chelation is the only way to know whether you are really autistic.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:20 pm

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There aren't any good tests for mercury so chelation is the only way to know whether you are really autistic.

Any legit, licensed toxicologist will disagree with you on that.

Blood and urine tests. Same way they test for everything else. False positives occur sometimes, but they are rare.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:21 pm

Bad science.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:23 pm

beau99 wrote:

zendell wrote:

Tensho wrote:

zendell wrote:

If an autistic person does chelation (to get rid of mercury) and takes anti-virals and anti-fungals (to cure infectious diseases) and the treatment makes the kid NT, would you have a problem with it?

You're assuming its always genetic. If someone removes mercury and viruses and becomes NT, I'd say that proves their autistic symptoms weren't genetic.

If someone was legit poisoned by mercury and recovered by chelation, then they were never autistic to begin with.

Some of those who believe in the mercury-autism theory agree with me.

what is the "mercury state" of the mothers in all these cases? i mean were any of them in treatment for it? cause that seems the most likely source of poisoning for a baby.... unless vaccines somehow have mercury in them...... which i doubt

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05 Feb 2008, 6:24 pm

zendell wrote:

beau99 wrote:

If someone was legit poisoned by mercury and recovered by chelation, then they were never autistic to begin with.

Some of those who believe in the mercury-autism theory agree with me.

That means if you've never tried chelation, then you can't be sure you are autistic There aren't any good tests for mercury so chelation is the only way to know whether you are really autistic.

assuming your cure theory is correct....

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05 Feb 2008, 6:26 pm

beau99 wrote:

zendell wrote:

There aren't any good tests for mercury so chelation is the only way to know whether you are really autistic.

Any legit, licensed toxicologist will disagree with you on that.

Blood and urine tests. Same way they test for everything else. False positives occur sometimes, but they are rare.

Blood and urine tests are only good for recent exposure. There's no proven good way to test for past exposure that occurred years ago.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:28 pm

zendell wrote:

Blood and urine tests are only good for recent exposure. There's no proven good way to test for past exposure that occurred years ago.

Why would you need to?

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05 Feb 2008, 6:30 pm

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Baxter Video:

the before videos weren't that bad... lol all kids do that stuff... all she had to say was that he drooled and pooped his pants a lot :roll:

and woo hoo... i learned to read and write at age 6 too! let's see an update much later.... or at least some videos of his "changes" with the vaccinations.

Ethan video:

maybe he had some comorbid fungal things.... but did you notice all the hand flapping he was still doing when "cured" lol and he still wasn't looking at his dad while interacting with him.

maybe these kids experience discomfort or whatever due to fungal things... but i know i'm a lot less interacting when i don't feel well and im not even DXed.

these videos are not a whole story by far.

Thanks for watching the videos.

I would have liked to have seen more but I think they showed them during a DAN! conference and had a time limit so they had to keep it short. I'm sure parents can tell whether their own children get better. Eventually, these causes and treatments will be proven. Regarding comorbid fungus I'm interested in what causes undesirable symptoms instead of curing everything about autism.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:31 pm

beau99 wrote:

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Blood and urine tests are only good for recent exposure. There's no proven good way to test for past exposure that occurred years ago.

Why would you need to?

If a person may be suffering due to mercury poisoning from a few years ago you need a way to test for it.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:32 pm

i did just find something on mercury and vaccines.. so i retract statement

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05 Feb 2008, 6:32 pm

where are the before and after videos?

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05 Feb 2008, 6:34 pm

zendell wrote:

beau99 wrote:

zendell wrote:

Blood and urine tests are only good for recent exposure. There's no proven good way to test for past exposure that occurred years ago.

Why would you need to?

If a person may be suffering due to mercury poisoning from a few years ago you need a way to test for it.

But there is no delayed reaction.

What you're describing is impossible.

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05 Feb 2008, 6:36 pm

Sedaka wrote:

The problem is a reduced ability to get rid of mercury. Some people also suffer more effects from mercury. If you expose 50 people to the same amount of mercury, everyone will get different symptoms and different severity.

One problem that occurs in another condition is problems with RNase L which makes the cells become more sensitive to mercury. A tiny amount of mercury that would normally kill 1 percent of the cells may be able to kill 5 to 10 percent of the cells. The same thing or something similar may occur in autism.

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