Extreme discomfort with gifts, being center of attention.

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08 Feb 2008, 11:06 pm

Yes. Unless it's my husband. I feel comfortable around him pretty much always. He understands me.


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09 Feb 2008, 12:06 am

I don't mind gifts, but it's hard to work up the surprise and enthusiasm it should bring. But then, at my advanced age, I'm still doing Xmas lists for the parental units, so there's not much thrill when you tick things off...;)

I tend not to have much enthusiasm about myself, even though I just got told I'm up for employee of the Month..;)



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09 Feb 2008, 12:06 am

I can't open presents around people. I get nervous for some reason!



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09 Feb 2008, 4:51 am

The way I've got around telling people what I want is to have a carefully updated wishlist on amazon. Throughout the year, if I see a book that looks interesting, I add it to my wishlist. (I also have a wishlist on www.shop4dinosaurs.co.uk because prehistoric life is my current obsession.) When I'm in the right kind of mood, I browse through amazon and pick things that look interesting (I absolutely love catalogues and can look at them for hours, so this is kinda fun) and add them to the wishlist. Now everyone knows to look at my amazon wishlist instead of asking me.

The issue is partly that my mum doesn't like cooking or using the computer. Maybe we should have an aspie-friendly set of rules about buying gifts. I think the issue is that my mum sees a gift as a message rather than a gift - I think that's quite an NT thing to do. She's trying to read between the lines - and my dad just doesn't put anything there. So the message she gets from a saucepan is "You don't spend enough time cooking." The very worst one was a parking sensor that my dad got her. A few weeks before that she had hit the back of the car on a bollard and put a dent in it. So my dad bought her an automatic parking sensor for Christmas to stop it from happening again. He thought he was helping her out, but she saw the message behind the gift as "you can't park."

With my dad I'm trying to get across the message that if a gift is purely functional, it shouldn't be given for Christmas or a birthday. So I'll say: "I think that you should buy her that London A-Z, since hers is worn out. If you just buy it for her, for no particular occasion, and say that you've noticed that hers is worn out, she'll appreciate it. If, however, you buy it for her for her birthday, she'll get very cross with you." He doesn't understand why that should be the case, and I can see where he's coming from, but it will do their relationship a lot of good!


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09 Feb 2008, 7:05 am

Thankfully I've never had to buy Christmas gifts or birthday gifts, my family has always accepted that as being me. :D

And whenever I get a gift, while I'm thankful, I never smile, and whoever gives ithe gift gets very upset, even though I try explaining that I am grateful and will enjoy it... bah, whatever. :?



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09 Feb 2008, 10:56 pm

yeah, my solution was when I stopped having birthday parties when I turned 12. I wanted to sooner, but my mom wouldn't let me.



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11 Feb 2008, 2:27 pm

Liopleurodon wrote:
*SNIP*
The issue is partly that my mum doesn't like cooking or using the computer. Maybe we should have an aspie-friendly set of rules about buying gifts. I think the issue is that my mum sees a gift as a message rather than a gift - I think that's quite an NT thing to do. She's trying to read between the lines - and my dad just doesn't put anything there. So the message she gets from a saucepan is "You don't spend enough time cooking." The very worst one was a parking sensor that my dad got her. A few weeks before that she had hit the back of the car on a bollard and put a dent in it. So my dad bought her an automatic parking sensor for Christmas to stop it from happening again. He thought he was helping her out, but she saw the message behind the gift as "you can't park."

With my dad I'm trying to get across the message that if a gift is purely functional, it shouldn't be given for Christmas or a birthday. So I'll say: "I think that you should buy her that London A-Z, since hers is worn out. If you just buy it for her, for no particular occasion, and say that you've noticed that hers is worn out, she'll appreciate it. If, however, you buy it for her for her birthday, she'll get very cross with you." He doesn't understand why that should be the case, and I can see where he's coming from, but it will do their relationship a lot of good!


I don't understand why the London A-Z would make her cross to get as a b-day or Christmas gift either. I wonder if this is really an AS thing or more of a general just being a man thing.

A lot of it seems to be the typical AS-NT misunderstanding, reading between the lines when the lines are all we are saying. If I had to assign a message to the gift it would be more like "I want the cooking you do to be easier and quicker for you." Bad tools just make it more annoying.

I guess I don't get the exact same things your dad is missing. What would be an example of a gift that is not purely functional? Would scented bath oils be one?
I have a feeling that I view "purely functional" in a whole different manner. To me if something doesn't have a function, then I don't want it. Of course the function could be as simple as just being there to look at, like a picture or painting.
The function of bath oils would be to enjoy a scented bath. To me that is not much different that the ability to enjoy parking without worrying about bumping something.



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12 Feb 2008, 3:21 am

My baby shower was pretty painful. Watching every. single. person. watching me, watching my reaction to each gift, listening to what I say about each gift. OHHHH GOD THE HORROR. I had no way to cope, so I don't know what to say. I just went through the motions and tried not to think about it, couldn't wait until it was over.


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12 Feb 2008, 3:21 am

Not to mention all the thoughts of "what if I don't get the wrapping paper off fast enough or can't open something, everyone's going to think I'm an idiot" :roll:


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12 Feb 2008, 12:01 pm

KristaMeth wrote:
My baby shower was pretty painful. Watching every. single. person. watching me, watching my reaction to each gift, listening to what I say about each gift. OHHHH GOD THE HORROR. I had no way to cope, so I don't know what to say. I just went through the motions and tried not to think about it, couldn't wait until it was over.


I think this may be true for NT's too, actually. I don't think I've ever seen anyone truly comfortable getting gifts.



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12 Feb 2008, 12:20 pm

Icarus_Falling wrote:
The spotlight of such attentions is not unlike the effect of sunlight on a vampire. I smoke, crackle, and burn - all while wearing my pretty smile mask and knowing that my every reaction is being carefully observed and judged. I hate it.

Generally speaking I actively discourage people from giving me gifts. A surprise birthday party a few years ago caused me to have a serious melt-down afterwards. These days I explicitly forbid people from observing my birthday in any way.

I do not react well to unexpected gifts; I have trouble hiding the strange sense of return obligation, that feeling of "Crap! I need to get you something now!" *fret* *fret*

Wonderfully put, I couldn't have said it better myself.



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12 Feb 2008, 1:10 pm

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When I was a child i did not mind Christmas gifts because I could take them to my room. By and large the gifts were useful, and I always liked the sweets. Then I would write the thank-you notes. (I hated to telephone).

But birthdays! I mean, the people stand around and wait for the reaction so they can smugly smile. No. Any of these centre of attention celebrations (including showers, weddings, graduations, Christmas parties and the like) are a complete drag and unwelcome. I do not like the Christmas gift thing as an adult. I have received too many recycled gifts that should have been given to the less fortunate if they were not wanted by the original receiver. :x


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12 Feb 2008, 2:40 pm

Put me into the hates to receive gifts group. I don't much like giving them either, but truthfully, that has a lot more to do with the reason I don't like receiving them (I can never be sure the recipient really likes them). I hate having to appear to like something when all I want to do is say what the f*** am I supposed to do with THAT?! !? Or, what in the world EVER gave you the idea I would LIKE that???! !

That said, there are rare people who have given me gifts that I truly do like. But I can't help but feel that even then the giver was disappointed by my reaction, or lack thereof. I'm so used to having to school my reaction to a LACK of reaction, that even when I love it, it doesn't show.