People using "nt" does my head in

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It stands for "Neurotypical".

I agree, it's only a fraction of the people on here who use it in a negative context - I don't think of NT's as "bad" or "evil" in any way, just "aliens" in the sense that the way they seem to think and act is often bizarre & incomprehensible to me.

Doesn't make them "wrong", just "different" from me.

e.g. when they don't understand why I prefer to go to lunch on my own rather than in a group like they do, or the way they need to "establish rapport" and "bond" all over the place.

Well, you know what does my head in? PC type AS'ers who denounce people for using the term NT.

These drop kicks who think that because someone uses a short hand for a collective noun that they truly hate with a seething passion at their core all those people who aren't autistic. Yeah, it's far easier and much nicer to saying something like...

"Why do the members of the numerically superior counted population who do not typically have a diagnosis for some kind of brain disorder or other body abnormality including but not limited to various sensory sensitivities or organic defects of either birth or environmentally acquired disorder and are otherwise not differing a statistically significant amount from the standard and numerically populous group whose characteristics are oft used as the basis for definition of the "norm" insist on hugging to say hello? I find it immensely uncomfortable and annoying, especially when it is not announced. Are there any tips that others have come up with that can help in these situations?"


dumbasses.


NT's suck! under very specific and often quite well established and enunciated circumstances that are often time limited and transitory. Maybe the next time we have someone come into The Haven in tears decrying some foul atrocity that was committed against them because of their aspieness that they are insensitive jerks. Remind them that their beef isn't against members of the numerically superior counted population who do not typically have a diagnosis for some kind of brain disorder or other body abnormality including but not limited to various sensory sensitivities or organic defects of either birth or environmentally acquired disorder and are otherwise not differing a statistically significant amount from the standard and numerically populous group whose characteristics are oft used as the basis for definition of the "norm" as a whole but only a select few of them, and that to say as much is very rude and demeaning to the people who ARE in fact members of the numerically superior counted population who do not typically have a diagnosis for some kind of brain disorder or other body abnormality including but not limited to various sensory sensitivities or organic defects of either birth or environmentally acquired disorder and are otherwise not differing a statistically significant amount from the standard and numerically populous group whose characteristics are oft used as the basis for definition of the "norm" that exist and post here and are valuable contributing members here on the forum.

yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you to point out the contradiction, cause I'm just not seeing it, mmmmk? yeah, that'd be great.

P.S. those two were just examples to illustrate a point. Good luck being as normal as possible though.

You know, regarding my last post I also want to add that I don't view NT as "normal ppl." Like I said I use it in terms of someone who has been diagnosed with AS and someone who hasn't which is NT. I never thought of NTs as all normal. They too may have some issues regarding mental health like major depression, scheziphrenia, social anxiety, manic depression, PTSD, ADD, OCD, anger issues and etc. So, I just use NT as an identification to someone with AS. Yes, maybe I'm a little jealous of NTs but as we know the grass isn't always that green on the other side.

very well put MissConstrue. Probably something the PC brigade misses when they complain about the use of the term NT.

I think that eventually through trial and error we start going in one of two directions- either we decide to try and be normal as possible or we try and find happiness with our differences.

Unfortunately this can divide the AS community as people cannot seem to see eye to eye if they have made a different decison.

I am a sort of fence sitter... I have realised that I dont want to behave like an NT as it would be unnatural. On the other hand i would like to learn good survival skills. But it has taken a long time to come around to seeing beauty in my AS, when before all that mattered to me was trying to resemble an NT.

I only use NT on here to let everybody know hes not on the spectrum, for me its easier to type NT rather then not on the spectrum, I use it in no other way or harm. I call my bf NT, he calls me autie, but we don't go say well hes nt and I'm autie. Its something we use only to tell people that I'm on the spectrum and he isn't mainly on autism sites. People understand that. I don't think its right when ppl put down NTs at all, thats what I agree with. If I use to word NT its basically to describe my boyfriend, or I say neurotypical, I don't think I ever used it an offensive way. Other people on the spectrum used it as well to describe somebody not to offend somebody. My boyfriend loves the word NT, he even wanted to make a shirt called "NT & Autie 4Ever", yes defintely weird lol, and thankfully he'll never ever get that chance lool.

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Being Normal Is Vastly Overrated

NT's suck! under very specific and often quite well established and enunciated circumstances that are often time limited and transitory. Maybe the next time we have someone come into The Haven in tears decrying some foul atrocity that was committed against them because of their aspieness that they are insensitive jerks. Remind them that their beef isn't against members of the numerically superior counted population who do not typically have a diagnosis for some kind of brain disorder or other body abnormality including but not limited to various sensory sensitivities or organic defects of either birth or environmentally acquired disorder and are otherwise not differing a statistically significant amount from the standard and numerically populous group whose characteristics are oft used as the basis for definition of the "norm" as a whole but only a select few of them, and that to say as much is very rude and demeaning to the people who ARE in fact members of the numerically superior counted population who do not typically have a diagnosis for some kind of brain disorder or other body abnormality including but not limited to various sensory sensitivities or organic defects of either birth or environmentally acquired disorder and are otherwise not differing a statistically significant amount from the standard and numerically populous group whose characteristics are oft used as the basis for definition of the "norm" that exist and post here and are valuable contributing members here on the forum.[/quote]

that lot ^

I really don't understnad what your going on about. Like I said its not just using the phrase. We are all people. I think i'm just messed up and i'm gonna sort myself out. I hope to beat my problems, either with medication, therapy or will power. I will still have HFA, but i'll be able to cope in the real world, at the moment, I can't!

Ah benji, sorry ur having problems lately. I know what u mean by having probs coping, i swear i wish i had a solid high functioning day, but thats why i try to find other ways like sensory toys or things to help with my sensitive hearing... hope yoiu feel better soon![/quote]


Ah, na. I always have trouble coping, i'm getting better lately. Thanks though

Am use NT as have always thought it to be-a quick and neutral term to mean those not of the autistic or neurodiverse design.

The problem is when people keep seeing something that isn't there,eg,if some people use NT to mean something nasty,it is assumed all are using it to mean the same way.
Am have wrote on WP a few times about something similar,one of the home staff team here picking the word 'coon' out of a 'maine coon cat club' logo on bedroom door [for those that dont know what it is it's a pedigree cat] and reading it in the meaning he wants it to be,words have different meanings and there are people who use them for good or for bad,people shouldn't have to write a load of writing to explain something that has simple words designed for it,or have to write disclaimers.

Making gross negative generalizations about groups of people unlike yourself just because there are some people in that group who bother you is an NT… err I mean human trait.

Alright – I admit that I’ve been guilty of doing the "NT this NT that" b*tch and moan on occasion. Usually it’s just humans in general that annoy me and the majority of humans happen to be NTs. Heck, I would probably annoy myself if there was a clone of me.

I don't think all people here use NT in a negative way though.