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22 Apr 2008, 12:39 pm

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He diagnosed you based only on that? :? I've never been diagnosed, but from what I read from people here who have, pdocs give hour long evaluations in order to diagnose someone with AS. I'd say your pdoc is rather incompetent.

My last one took a good couple of hours and that was with me already filling out a questionnaire before I arrived and taking three pages of notes!

Mine didn't take that long. Maybe 4 to 6 hours total? Everyone there acted as if it was obvious I was AS though. I don't think so! I thought I appeared almost perfectly normal.


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22 Apr 2008, 7:32 pm

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The psychologist told me that he didn't think I have Asperger's Syndrome. Amongst the examples he cited that according to him supported his belief that I didn't have Asperger's was my answer to his question about why I didn't converse with people. When he asked me that question, I thoughtlessly answered that I didn't talk to people because I didn't have anything to say (which is not untrue, just not entirely accurate). According to the psychologist, that answer suggests I don't have Asperger's Syndrome.

So, what would have been an answer to his question that would have supported the Asperger's hypothesis?

Would a more idiosyncratic answer such as "I have a hard time following the rhythm of a conversation" have kept me in the running? How about, "I don't see the point of sharing my ideas with others"? Or, "talking feels unnatural to me"? Or, "I have a hard time articulating grammatically correct sentences and telling stories"?

As a matter of fact, those answers apply to me to some extent. I just answered what I answered because I was put on the spot and didn't want to appear like an idiot if I spent too much time thinking about my answer.


just tell him you want neuro feedback, psychologists are not qualified to diagnose you as having aspergers.



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22 Apr 2008, 7:44 pm

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just tell him you want neuro feedback, psychologists are not qualified to diagnose you as having aspergers.


Do you mean, should I ask for a referral to a neuropsychologist? I was always uncoordinated when it came to sports, and I still accidentally bump into corners and door frames every now and then. Sometimes people say something, their words enter my mind, but they just lay there as incomprehensible pieces of auditory memory, until my mind, a few seconds later, replays the sounds and deciphers their meanings.



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22 Apr 2008, 8:47 pm

And did he consider that you may have nothing to say to them because they are too stupid to engage in intelligent conversation with and you don't care for an "Umm, like I went out like last night and saw an umm hot guy who was so fine." "Wow, I wish i was there. I would have eaten him up" conversation



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22 Apr 2008, 9:17 pm

I gather you're perplexed by this doctor's opinion. If I were in that situation, I would seek the opinion of another doctor. The second doctor might have a similar one or one that is just as puzzling, but you could at least gain some clarity by comparing and contrasting the two.

It also might help to read some books about AS along with some books about the diagnoses given by the doctor(s). That might help you to understand the doctor's opinion and determine whether or not you agree with it.



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22 Apr 2008, 10:25 pm

EvilKimEvil wrote:
I gather you're perplexed by this doctor's opinion. If I were in that situation, I would seek the opinion of another doctor. The second doctor might have a similar one or one that is just as puzzling, but you could at least gain some clarity by comparing and contrasting the two.

It also might help to read some books about AS along with some books about the diagnoses given by the doctor(s). That might help you to understand the doctor's opinion and determine whether or not you agree with it.


which books?



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23 Apr 2008, 12:39 am

if you're that upset with it just get a more professional diagnosis because no 2 people with aspergers are the same anyway



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23 Apr 2008, 5:22 am

Confused-Fish wrote:
just tell him you want neuro feedback, psychologists are not qualified to diagnose you as having aspergers.

That is not quite accurate; my diagnostician describes herself as a psychologist. What her credentials show though are that she has many years working with people on the spectrum and in settings related to that. So don't be misled by a plain title, look for the actual experience in ASDs.



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23 Apr 2008, 12:07 pm

Mw99 wrote:
EvilKimEvil wrote:
I gather you're perplexed by this doctor's opinion. If I were in that situation, I would seek the opinion of another doctor. The second doctor might have a similar one or one that is just as puzzling, but you could at least gain some clarity by comparing and contrasting the two.

It also might help to read some books about AS along with some books about the diagnoses given by the doctor(s). That might help you to understand the doctor's opinion and determine whether or not you agree with it.


which books?


I don't know. I haven't read any books about AS because in my case, it's been pretty straight-forward, but I hear that Tony Attwood's books are pretty good, and I'm sure there are other good ones. As for the non-AS DX, I have no idea. I would spend some time on Amazon searching and reading the reviews or maybe look for a recommended reading list on a site with info about that DX.



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23 Apr 2008, 12:18 pm

Confused-Fish wrote:
just tell him you want neuro feedback, psychologists are not qualified to diagnose you as having aspergers.

Actually for historical reasons Asperger's is primarily diagnosed from a behavioral POV so a nuerophycholgist may not be able to diagnose Asperger but they could diagnose specific things like Executive Dysfunction.

Believe me i gone out of my way to try and get a nuerofuntional study done for my cognitive co-mormids, I've not go anywhere yet but I'm not giving up. It it on the fringes of what we know. There is no biological test for ASD. Nuero feedback is not used in diagnosis of ASD. There isn't enough knowledge currently to make conclusions.