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Do you enjoy arguing?
Poll ended at 26 Apr 2008, 3:10 pm
Yes! 34%  34%  [ 20 ]
No! 21%  21%  [ 12 ]
That would depend on what your position is. 45%  45%  [ 26 ]
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24 Apr 2008, 9:24 pm

I argue with my husband all the time, but for the rest of the world? No. I'm a serial conflict-avoider. In fact, when I sense a conflict brewing between me and someone else, I go far out of my way to avoid them. I even quit a job because I thought my boss was a total dumba$$, but was too afraid to call him on some of the idiotic decisions he made. Also, if I end up in an argument with someone I don't know, I instantly start crying.


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24 Apr 2008, 11:42 pm

I enjoy debating respectfully, without emotion. I dislike emotionally charged confrontation. If I have some kind of personal issue with someone, I just avoid him or her.



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24 Apr 2008, 11:44 pm

mmm, I'm the same way. It's hard to tell online, but in real life I never raise my voice.


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25 Apr 2008, 1:26 am

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only arguing passionately with a boyfriend. Only cause the making up is so much fun! :lol:

also I like debating in class, I really enjoyed it only when they would respect what I had to say.


There's a difference between argueing with someone about something, and debating an issue.
Argueing is out of control, with anger. Where as debating doesn't usually contain anger. You've heard of a debate club at school, but never an argue club. :lol:

Anyway, no, I don't enjoy conflict. Although it seems that many times I find myself in conflict with my mother.


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25 Apr 2008, 4:34 am

I don't enjoy arguing with people. It makes me feel insecure. I think I may enjoy debating if it was on a specific topic and I knew what I was going to say and there was no personal animosity, in which there often is with arguing.



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25 Apr 2008, 7:10 am

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I think arguing is some how different then debating. One seems to cloud the topic and the other is meant to clarify it. I like the latter. It stimulates my brain and that always feels good to me. It also helps me understand why I think what I think and I am open to learning something new and questioning my own wrong assumptions. What I can't tolerate is people who argue but lack any logical ability. It took me awhile to figure out that some people have different objective then mine when discussing issues like religion, politics, gender issues or autism I might begin a debate with them but as soon as I figure out they are just not capable of logical reasoning and they only want to spout unfounded rhetoric, I don't feel like wasting my time on them.


One of my biggest complaints about the stereotype of aspies being "argumentative" is that there appears to be a value judgement involved in something that should not have one. There is nothing wrong with questioning common assumptions. It is productive and leads to insights and better ways of doing things. When I tried to "argue" with my parents it was an attempt to understand "why" they believed the way they did and if it proved viable I was willing to adapt my behavior to it. Their lack of desire to discuss issues with me was based on their own laziness to think of why they had the assumptions and willingness to help me understand their logic(or lack of it) was what made me angry/upset. This has caused a lot of problems for me in my jobs as well when I question the logic or efficiency of managers. I have a lot of problesm respecting someone just beause they caarry a particular "title" because I have seen so much efidence that such titles do not make the personal infalable or more intelligent then myself...in some areas. Many of these people have only gotten such tites because they had enough money to persue an advanced degree and I am self taught in many things. Others get their titels because of influential friends and better social skills...neither one makes them more capable of using logic then I am. Even when they adopt my ideas it never advances me in the job and I am still percieved as a "trouble maker", not a team player Who just goes along with the coachs decissions).


Exactly! It seems like every time I try to explain something to a superior I get accused of being a trouble maker.


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25 Apr 2008, 7:22 am

Hmmmm aruging and fighting? No. I avoid fighting.

Debating though? I love doing that. =D



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25 Apr 2008, 7:46 am

No, I am extremely passive. The one thing I wish I could get over. It really ruins my life. I live my life in flight. Scared of life scared of death...



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25 Apr 2008, 8:20 am

EvilKimEvil wrote:
I enjoy debating respectfully, without emotion. I dislike emotionally charged confrontation. If I have some kind of personal issue with someone, I just avoid him or her.


Indeed. This works.



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25 Apr 2008, 11:28 am

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One of my "issues" is a love of argument. This offends most people, and I notice a tendency on this site, (as in life) to avoid controversy. The bluntness, of which many of us seem to pride ourselves in, seems oddly missing. Comments?


Actually, I was wondering the same thing.

I too love a good argument, as can be seen from my posts in some of the other threads!

I suppose the thing is, two aspies arguing will be "the irresistible force against the immovable object", i.e. both parties who enjoy arguing are likely to be fully entrenched in their views and neither is open to persuasion by the other point of view.

In my case it's just a debate/rant; it doesn't mean that I am likely to end up hating/being offended by the other person, but I may well have offended them without meaning to.

The more sensitive among us may well decide that it's not a risk worth taking, because they want other aspies to like them, even if they don't care about NT's.



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25 Apr 2008, 11:55 am

I actually agree too much with people :S it's a problem. I have pretty low self-esteem. :S


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25 Apr 2008, 5:49 pm

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Well, one of the reasons I am not as blunt as I could be, on WP, is this could lead to unpleasantness and flame wars. I would rather leave a topic than get into a pointless argument.


I just realized I did not quote you, hartzofspace. You said what I said in fewer words. :D


It's because I have low energy. However, you phrased it very eloquently!


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25 Apr 2008, 6:11 pm

I hate really arguing because it makes me upset (though I do anyway so I won't be pushed around), but when I'm in an intellectual debate my friends tell me I have a tendency to drive my point into the ground and be argumenative.


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25 Apr 2008, 7:14 pm

I love to argue, but the emotional components are lost on me,
so it never ends well. Now I just bite my tongue and agree with most of the BS that people try to peddle.



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26 Apr 2008, 12:17 pm

I don't like arguing, or debating for the most part. My mouth can't ever seem to keep up with my brain. It always feels like I can't get my thoughts into words, so I always lose on my stance. Of course, an hour later I can come up with all kinds of kick butt comebacks, and solid points to support my stance. :roll:

I avoid arguing, and debating , unless it's a subject that I am so morally/ethically opinionated on I can't help but state my POV. When that happens I can get carried away. Fortunately, it doesn't happen often, though.