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09 Sep 2008, 11:13 pm

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The one that as soon as you say the word "autistic", everyone thinks you're a ret*d.

The math/geek connection. I suck at maths.

The "no humour" theme, I love sarcasm, black humour and irony.

The "no eye contact", I have more than average eye contact with the people around me.... maybe a little too much.

The Asperger/IT connection is not quite the prejudiced stereotype you may think it is.
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/spe ... 7000784BD0

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10 Sep 2008, 12:09 am

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The Asperger/IT connection is not quite the prejudiced stereotype you may think it is.
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/spe ... 7000784BD0

I was about to post the wired article; because there has been a noted correlation...I'm backing off ( I first read it as " it is quite the prejudiced stereotype"

well ill post it anyway
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and I fond this due to a firefox extention w00t.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_Spectrum_Quotient

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10 Sep 2008, 12:19 am

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it would seem like a great idea,but even when it's tried at a very small level [institution/residential homes for autists] an all autist environment can be a disaster.
Autists-on all levels can often only have one thing in common-the label,beyond the diagnosis and the minimum criteria-there are differences as no two are alike-all have different needs, difficulties, wants,likes,hates etc. it is when these clash between autists that becomes the big problem-because it can become impossible to live with.

okay.

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autists who are hf enough to adapt for others,and get along in mainstream society well would probably do better in an all autist society.
one of the worst incompatibilities with autists is hyposensitive v hypersensitive-something that would be over common in an all autist society,what makes quality of life good for one,makes it hell for another.

couldn't they go further towards the hyposensitive side then to please both? Or am I thinking wrongly

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non mainstream society like the camphill communities work well and are a better idea because they mix all different forms of developmental and learning disability,some autists will find it a lot easier to live with a DSer [downs syndrome] or LDer because DSers tend to be more easy going [though can share some issues as with autism] and LDers dont have the same complex issues and needs as with autism and as.

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10 Sep 2008, 1:58 pm

Everytime I hear someone say that people with autism are super talented in math, I want to strangle them.

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10 Sep 2008, 2:05 pm

PunkyKat wrote:

Everytime I hear someone say that people with autism are super talented in math, I want to strangle them.

count me in

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10 Sep 2008, 2:41 pm

UndercoverAlien wrote:

PunkyKat wrote:

Everytime I hear someone say that people with autism are super talented in math, I want to strangle them.

count me in

Me too, math was my worst subject.. its a miracle that I even passed my math courses

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10 Sep 2008, 3:28 pm

As posted before in another thread

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we dont think u have it
from what we know about it u dont meet the criteria
no parent likes to think that their offspring might have something like that

My response was

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it's a learning dysfunction with autistic traits
learning becomes easier when a routine is in place
usually the same thing
this way day to day processes become more predictable and more comfortable
of course, language can be a problem where a lot of things can be taken literally rather than as the originator intended...
facial expression recognition can be learnt but takes time depending on the person
some people with aspergers have no problem, others spend an entire lifetime trying to figure it all out
a fixation on an acute or few subjects usually becomes the centre of discussion where knowledge levels can be so much that the information stored can be hugely vast
one could learn all the dates of a football game, but have no interest in the sport itself
need any more info?

The response was an offensive

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ur reading that from a book arent u? u do not have learning difficulties u went to a grammar school and u communicate perfectly

My next comment in response to that

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um - no, that was from what I know ...
I went to a school where many people suggest I may have "learning problems"
I never picked up on that, or had any idea why they would say such a thing...

Turns out more people than you know will stereotype this "disease" as they like to refer it as. Or try and diagnose you themselves from what they "know"

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10 Sep 2008, 3:44 pm

Myths are in italics.

Winner of the Absurdity Award:

Autism Spectrum Disorders are caused by watching too much television during early childhood.

Winner of the Ridiculous Dichotomy Award:

Everyone is either normal and therefore able to fully function in society or they are ret*d and must be treated with the utmost condescension.

Winner of the Whining Not Reading Award:

Asperger's Syndrome (and other ASD's) are imaginary diseases invented by wealthy parents of lazy children who want these lazy children to get special treatment instead of good old fashioned discipline.

Winner of the Not Thinking Award:

There are no adults with autistic spectrum disorders except for Temple Grandin, Daniel Tammet, and "Rain Man".

Here's a brand new conspiracy theory to sum it all up!

Daniel Tammet and Temple Grandin (with some help from "Rain Man") put mercury in vaccines given to the children of wealthy parents in order to make these young children watch too much television, act strangely, and become lazy; all of these children are either secretly normal or severely intellectually disabled. When the latter enter adulthood, they will have to be institutionalized, away from public view, and only allowed to interact with a select few who can treat them condescendingly enough.

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10 Sep 2008, 3:46 pm

Huh? Why is this page all stretched out? No one posted a large image.

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10 Sep 2008, 3:47 pm

release_the_bats wrote:

Myths are in italics.

Winner of the Absurdity Award:

Autism Spectrum Disorders are caused by watching too much television during early childhood.

Winner of the Ridiculous Dichotomy Award:

Everyone is either normal and therefore able to fully function in society or they are ret*d and must be treated with the utmost condescension.

Winner of the Whining Not Reading Award:

Asperger's Syndrome (and other ASD's) are imaginary diseases invented by wealthy parents of lazy children who want these lazy children to get special treatment instead of good old fashioned discipline.

Winner of the Not Thinking Award:

There are no adults with autistic spectrum disorders except for Temple Grandin, Daniel Tammet, and "Rain Man".

Here's a brand new conspiracy theory to sum it all up!

Daniel Tammet and Temple Grandin (with some help from "Rain Man") put mercury in vaccines given to the children of wealthy parents in order to make these young children watch too much television, act strangely, and become lazy; all of these children are either secretly normal or severely intellectually disabled. When the latter enter adulthood, they will have to be institutionalized, away from public view, and only allowed to interact with a select few who can treat them condescendingly enough.

WOW that sure takes the cake. Unbelievable...

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10 Sep 2008, 3:54 pm

Oh, here's another!

No one with AS has ever heard the "a** burgers" and "a** pies" jokes; if you reference such a joke to an aspie, they will either be extremely offended or fall over laughing.

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10 Sep 2008, 8:25 pm

"OMG! YOU HAVE ASPERGERS? YOU MUST BE A MATH GENIUS~!"

"YOU MUST BE ret*d BECAUSE YOU DO NOT ACT LIKE ME"

"ALL ASPIES GENERALIZE"

"ASPIES MAKE POOR HUSBANDS/WIVES"

"MY AUTISTIC CHILD DOESN'T LOVE ME BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SHOWER ME WITH ATTENTION 34/7"

Just to name a few.

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10 Sep 2008, 8:41 pm

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"MY AUTISTIC CHILD DOESN'T LOVE ME BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SHOWER ME WITH ATTENTION 34/7"

wow talk about insecurity

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10 Sep 2008, 8:43 pm

lionesss wrote:

WOW that sure takes the cake. Unbelievable...

delicious cake indeed...especially the last paragraph. he was serious? :?:

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10 Sep 2008, 8:45 pm

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demoluca wrote:

"MY AUTISTIC CHILD DOESN'T LOVE ME BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SHOWER ME WITH ATTENTION 34/7"

wow talk about insecurity

I keep wondering why they think their CHILD doesn't love them. All children love their parents, even if they don't admit it. Even serial killers love their parents!

This is mostly true for younger kids, at the time when MY CHILD DOESN'T LOVE ME! phase starts.

So yeah.

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10 Sep 2008, 8:52 pm

demoluca wrote:

lionesss wrote:

demoluca wrote:

"MY AUTISTIC CHILD DOESN'T LOVE ME BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SHOWER ME WITH ATTENTION 34/7"

wow talk about insecurity

I keep wondering why they think their CHILD doesn't love them. All children love their parents, even if they don't admit it. Even serial killers love their parents!

This is mostly true for younger kids, at the time when MY CHILD DOESN'T LOVE ME! phase starts.

So yeah.

Yep, some parents would think that if the child isn't showing them affection the way they want the child to, or even say "I love you".. then automatically they will believe that the child doesn't love them. These parents desperately need to be educated better about autism.. or they need to find a way to be less insecure. Even when it comes to "typical" kids.. when they are extremely young the parents are going to be giving a lot more than they get back. Thats just the way it goes.

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