How do you think you'd have lived with AS in past centuries?

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22 May 2008, 5:43 pm

I think I'd have ended up like some of the characters in Dickens.

Prolly Mister Mawcaber ....


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22 May 2008, 6:28 pm

let's see.

A time before big bright lights....awesome

A time when kids actually went to school to learn instead of trying to outdo each other with how much they could throw spit wads.....great!

No loud cars....awesome

Not everyone took baths every single day...cool

Classical music was in....awesome

No loud weed eaters....awesome

Brilliant people were in and admired

Now it seems our world has shifted into social skills over mind.



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22 May 2008, 10:27 pm

If I could have avoided a lingering, painful death from one of the aforementioned causes, I would have loved it, I think. If I could have been an eccentric recluse with the means to feed myself, that is.



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22 May 2008, 11:18 pm

Well, my problem with any such speculation is my Marfan syndrome--if I'd lived any time prior to the late 19th Century, I'd have died in my early teens, since, with a restricted livestyle and the best medical treatment possible, my aorta blew when I was 19.

So, if I was *not* a Marfan, but otherwise "me," it really wouldn't matter today or past--I'd be some kind of missionary, desert hermit, exorcist and/or prophet. I dare anyone to go through Butler's Lives of the Saints and point out someone who would not be labeled ADHD, bipolar, Autistic, Asperger's, schizophrenic or OCD by modern psychologists--which, to me, just proves that these "disorders" are, fundamentally, "traits," and it's only upbringing and social norms that turn them into disorders.



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22 May 2008, 11:42 pm

bikermark wrote:
Shaman, holy man, mystic, sorcerer, lunatic, hermit, all in no particular order.

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I think I actually have been those sometime long, long ago!

I have often wondered if I might have been certain historical characters, Robert Fulton, submarine developer, steamboat entrepreneur (he didn't actually invent that one!) for one. People who were technical and inventive in more technological times, mystic in earlier ones. I would probably have been like DaVinci in terms of technicalities.


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22 May 2008, 11:53 pm

GodsGadfly wrote:
I dare anyone to go through Butler's Lives of the Saints and point out someone who would not be labeled ADHD, bipolar, Autistic, Asperger's, schizophrenic or OCD by modern psychologists--which, to me, just proves that these "disorders" are, fundamentally, "traits," and it's only upbringing and social norms that turn them into disorders.


I've had the exact same feeling about if psychologists were able to analyze the brahmins who composed the Upanishads, particularly with regard to so-called "Aspergers"; my studies of the Upanishads for the past 30-some years has me convinced that we "aspies" are really the brahmin, or scholarly (also known as "priestly" way back when), caste.


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23 May 2008, 4:18 am

asplanet wrote:
I think they would of burned me for being a witch, apart from not be like others, I also have 2 different colored eyes...
Ana54 wrote:
I was going to say that; I would have been burnt at the stake!
Cerumenator wrote:
Clicking on this topic, I already had my mind made up to add "be burnt alive at the stake", and I see it's already been written twice??! !

Great minds DO think alike!
slowmutant wrote:
During the Middle Ages, they surely would have burnt me at the stake or tried to release my cranial demons with trepanning.
PunkyKat wrote:
I woud have been burned at the steak.
ADoyle wrote:
If I didn't die from the seizure disorder I had as an infant, if I were living in the Middle Ages, I would have been burnt at the stake as a witch.



Stick another one on the bonfire, guv.



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23 May 2008, 12:06 pm

Here's another one:

During any war era, Aspies would have been used as bait!


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23 May 2008, 1:25 pm

AnonymousAnonymous wrote:
Here's another one:

During any war era, Aspies would have been used as bait!


Or they would have been EXCELLENT soldiers, repeat after me:

From the movie "Full Metal Jacket":

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This is my rifle. There are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.


Why would any of that be difficult for an Aspie?


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23 May 2008, 3:55 pm

I think that I would have managed in life OK in a small village - as a woman noone would have blinked an eyelid at me hardly speaking. The thing that worries me is the depression which started in my teens - I guess it would depend on my family. If they hushed up the suicide attempts and kept me at home I might have been OK (although maybe without medication I would never have got better), but I can imagine being sent off to the lunatic asylum, and spend my entire life locked up there in appalling conditions, becoming completely crazy due to the surroundings and complete lack of hope.



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28 May 2008, 11:28 pm

I would of been EMPEROR!! !

I'd conquer the world.
Nations would crumble under my boots.

Or I'd live a quiet life of seclusion on an island and live by my wits and a knife.


but no.....
in the 20/21 century, there are labels and medications that suck all of the fun out of derangement!!

oh well!! !


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29 May 2008, 1:08 am

Some sort of holy man (or woman), shaman, monk, recluse, hermit, healer especially in earlier times when the connection with nature was less shattered. Witches before they were called witches I think were herbalists. Being in Salem MA in the 1600's might have been dangerous.



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29 May 2008, 4:52 am

tailfins1959 wrote:
From the movie "Full Metal Jacket":

Quote:
This is my rifle. There are many like it but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my rifle is useless. Without my rifle I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.


Why would any of that be difficult for an Aspie?

Freedom?... You'd better flush out your head, new guy. This isn't about freedom; this is a slaughter. If I'm gonna get my balls blown off for a word, my word is "poontang".

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29 May 2008, 4:56 am

i would be the guy people think is being contrled buy a demon.


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29 May 2008, 5:58 am

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
I think I'd have ended up like some of the characters in Dickens.

Prolly Mister Mawcaber ....


I think this one is closest to historical reality, the people who ended up in the most terrible jobs (coal mining comes to mind), or were in debtor's prison.

In the States, a lot of the pioneers, who didn't like society and needed to isolate themselves by moving west are likely candidates, as are religious separatists.



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31 May 2008, 12:04 am

It would depend on the time, the place, and the station you were born into. If you were born a peasant, it's extremely unlikely you'd end up as an alchemist up in a castle tower, poring over tomes of Hermetic magick into the wee hours.