are meltdowns more asperger or autism releated?

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which are they?
autism 83%  83%  [ 25 ]
asperger 17%  17%  [ 5 ]
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09 Mar 2010, 11:18 pm

Callista wrote:
Hmm, that'd make sense--with no symbolic communication available, meltdowns are more likely.

Of course, "no symbolic communication available" can happen with an overwhelmed Aspie just as it can with somebody who's never figured out language in the first place. I should know. :oops:

That's true. It's happened to me a few times.
I guess I should have elaborated on severity of symptoms. Although I don't know if it's actually true, because I'm not LFA nor have I met anyone that is. I just think from reading and watching videos about them that there's more dislike of change, sensory issues and control of their emotions. I could be wrong though.


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10 Mar 2010, 3:29 am

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04 Jun 2010, 12:54 pm

I've got AS mildly, but I seem to be having more meltdowns as I got older. I'm a young adult and I am worse than ever. When I was a child I had ordinary child tantrums (even they are nothing compared to what they are now), and when I was a younger teenager, about 14, I was surly and aloof, just like other teenagers. But now I feel like I'm worse than a teenager and a little kid put together. And when people tell me to ''grow up'' or they say ''don't act like a baby'' or ''you're old enough to control yourself now'', this makes my meltdown worse.
We call meltdowns ''lash-outs''.
But to an aspie, any little problem seems like the end of the world to us, and that's why we lash out, whereas others (lucky NTs!! !! !! !! !! !! !) can moan and whinge a bit then get on with their lives.
Here are some examples of what happens when I have a ''lash-out'':-
I hate snow, so I hate winter. And if I hear it's going to snow tomorrow, I can't just calmly moan - I have to cry. I don't throw things, and I don't hurt anybody, I just slouch on the settee and whine and cry for ages, until someone says something what makes me feel better about the situation. I hate snow because I have very poor balance, so I easily slip over on ice - then I get embarrassed. Snowy paths makes life difficult for me (I have Dyspraxia aswell as AS, so this is why my motor skills are poor). And if I slip I get TERRIBLY embarrassed. So I'd rather do without snow. I used to like it as a kid, but since I've left school I've come to hate it. It never snowed much when I was a kid, but since I've grown-up and left school it's been snowing non-stop every winter. So that has made me wonder if the weather is alive!
That was one example of a reason for a lash-out.
But - another reason why I lash out is because people now expect a vast reaction from me, so I do it.
I hate my Mum sneezing because it's really annoying, and she literally does about 15 when she has a sneezing fit. They come every 3-4 seconds, and I can't just sit there and put up with it. But if I sit there quietly and try to put up with it, everyone in the room will look at me expectantly. If I told them I can't be bothered to react, they would all look at eachother in amazement. So now I've turned my lash-outs into an uncontrollable habit.
My family all say ''I can help it, and can control myself''. I can't help it. The anger rushes out of me before I can stop it - and then another lash-out is done. Now my family is upset. Now I'm regreting it.

I don't know how to help my lash-outs/meltdowns.



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04 Jun 2010, 4:09 pm

A lash-out/meltdown (me):-
1. Bad news is said
2. My heart beats faster and faster, I get a hot and cold sweat on the back of my neck, my ears go read, the blood rushes to my face...
3. I have to react to the situation, so I start the whining game
4. After more bad information about the bad news is said to me, I feel worse with my rapid heartbeat, hot sweats, and rushing blood
5. I can't take any more of bottling up my fears/emotions, so my whole body literally jumps itself off the ground/chair
6. I shout/cry/moan (or all)
7. Say bad words, don't know where to put my arms and legs so I clench my hands together and shout even more
8. May through self onto settee, crying and blaming nearest person to me for the bad situation, although not their fault
9. People around me feel stressed/annoyed/worried/upset of me and decide to get out of my way
10. I then start thinking about what this awful AS s**t is doing to my personalilty, so start yelling and swearing that it's not fair that I'm stuck with this nasty disability and nobody else in the family is, and look what it's making me become and look how much I stand out, ect...
11. I have to cry for at least 15-20 minutes, then I calm down and overcome the situation myself
12. Big regrets, made an atmosphere in house, people not speak to me when I walk near

This is a horrible meltdown. I hate having them. But they just happen before I can stop them. It's my only way of releasing anger from my mind. But sometimes people set me off. If it's snowing, and I walk into the room and look out of the window without screaming or crying, my brother will still say ''oh, here we go, everyone!! !'' and that will throw me into a meltdown.
But then if I sat calmly knowing it is snowing outside, something in the back of my mind will repeatingly tell me, ''it's snowing outside, it;s snowing outside,'' and I can't ignore it. I then go into one.
My poor, poor family. Just one day, I would love to see somebody else having a meltdown, and then I will be the ''good'', ''normal'' person, and then I might know what it's like.
Well, it has happened before. My brother gets depression (don't ask why!! !) and once every summer he suddenly has an overload of depression, and it goes on for a whole week-end. (When I have my lash-outs they only last an hour at the most, and 10 minutes at the least, and then I'm completely over it - it don't go on all day or week-end!) But my brother would sit there really still for hours when we got family round, and he pulls a grumpy face - and this is for no reason. (My meltdowns are for a reason, so people get over them quicker). But my brother worries the hell out of my Mum - then I feel I'm the ''good'' one, and I start boasting to Mum how much I love driving, and talking to friends, and fashion. . . But my brother's moods don't affect me. I don't get swallowed up in the atmosphere - I don't get involved. I just go and do my own thing and just think ''oh dear, more fool him for looking ridiculous in front of the family!''
I love it when someone's in a mood. When my Auntie cries her eyes out because she hasn't got any friends (we all think she's got a bit of undiagnosed AS), I always have sympathy and I cuddle her. And when my Mum's moaning about something silly, I sit and listen and agree with her. And when my Dad's shouting and huffing and puffing at everyone I just grin, and say ''all what matters is that I'm in a good mood. :D



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04 Jun 2010, 4:27 pm

I'm prone to crying meltdowns, and I'm borderline AS/HFA.


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04 Jun 2010, 6:00 pm

What happened to the both option?