is he horribly misinformed or am I??

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Ay yah, there must be better things to do with my time...

This is really, really annoying. I mentioned this to irishmic, but apparently that got glossed over:

Of course I don't mind putting little brackets around urls that I post. I had no idea such a thing was necessary, so I will beat myself with a whip at the earliest opportunity.

But "thanking" people in advance is rude and pushy, vetivert, and that was why I took exception to irishmic's post, and yours as well. It takes for granted that someone will comply with your demands, rather than presuming their free will. Look it up in any book of common etiquette.

And no, I won't edit my post as described. I'll edit it in an entirely different manner. I'll delete the URL, and people can find the article by hook or crook the best they can. After this, I don't feel much like sharing, but I wouldn't want to destroy the bulletin boards, so off it goes...

Nah, they're just more concerned about defending a label which defines them as "special", if anything.

Typical elitism.

I stand corrected. I'm sorry.
Today looks like the day I upset the wrong person.
I will try to be better behaved tomorrow.
Tonight I guess it's just me and the dogs boys.

I know, but I can't put em on blast for that - its filling a need they have and if that illusion is keeping people stable arround here or helping em live another day, I may not wanna be that quick to knee-cap it. The fact that this thread started out with as much hostility as it did toward the guy shows just how much work people have to put into keeping themselves believing in it.

I just hope they'd be polite enough as not to talk like that to someones face if they came on here spouting stuff like that. Point is when someone's like that they need redirection of beliefs, not redirection out the door. This is a support group and no one needs help more than those who are really damaged by society and don't have an assured sense of self. People like that can pull a full 180 with the right information if you actually analyze why their beliefs are what they are and can figure out how to get through to em. I mean we're REALLY in a position to completely change the quality of someone's life who's in that situation for the better. Hell, if no one else finds that they have a way of understanding or dealing with anyone like that who joins here, they need to just send em my way - I don't mind helping people when and if I can.

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I think you're talking to me again...

If that's the case, you have nothing to fear, O writer of posts. You didn't thank me again in advance, and for that I thank you. What's to be upset about?

Now, the wrath of the Druid is turned to that vetivert, who had the temerity to repeat your earlier mistake. Disrespect of the priesthood is never taken lightly...

Please be nice to vetivert.
You'll notice that I did not say 'thank you.'
You'll also noticed that I prefaced with 'please.'
Ultimately it is your choice.

temerity? ah, no - a request from a Moderator, groovydruid, in order to keep the page format from being buggered up. standard practice.

interesting point about druidry and the priesthood - the druid order i belonged to would probably debate you on that point.


really? and there was me thinking it was politeness.


yep. the mods do expect people to abide by the guidelines.


look it up in the terms of service, which are here (and about to be redrafted to make things clearer):

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... opic&t=419

hope that clarifies things.

ShadesOfMe,
The AS guy at your school has just been verbally and emotionally abused by his family and has come to believe what he's been told by repitition. In short, brainwashing. He's been raised by people that are most likely shallow, poorly educated, and think that Brad Pitt and Jennifer Anniston are headline news...and anyone that isn't like that is broken in their minds. You better get used to people like that because most of society tends to be run by people like that. Maybe you could befriend this kid, but avoid talking about the cause of AS?

That's really sad. Aspies aren't ret*d... bit odd for sure, but not ret*d... I think there is a genetic link, but it's not a simple recessive one. I also think there is a lot of overlap with AD(H)D and OCD, so not everyone in the family has AS, but there can be other 'odd' family members.

I was lucky that both my father and mother did not verbally and emotionally abuse me and belittled me because of my autism. My mother certainly could not express or did not love me and had little concern for my psychological needs, but she never abused me like that.

However my dad's ex wife certainly did do that to me and it hurt. She was that type of poorly educated, shallow woman who would think Brad Pitt and Jennifer Anniston are headline news

It's funny how people moan about aspies aren't this and that and deliberately ignore the ones who are perceived to be the real "unfortunates" -- the auties.

But I guess this is what happens when someone who has founded this faulty autistic spectrum, but later realised that we all, in fact, share the same autism thus beginning to have doubts over the entire thing.

http://www.autistics.org/library/aspieautie.html

Ack! What happened to the sheep? Well, this Avatar is certainly more ornate. Nice going.

And yes, I shall be very nice to vetivert. I have an idea we've got everything sorted out.

This is really very simple: I allowed myself to become discombobulated over what irishmic and then you said. That's a form of judgement, and that's not my business.

Irishmic has made a point of being respectful after his first correction and my reaction, and I felt led by a good example.

The rest is silence.

Don't you feel sometimes like you're playing wack-a-mole with me?

Indeed.
Most people with AS are smart even by conventional standards. Intelligence is not the issue.
I don't think I've ever seen an IQ for somebody with AS below about 130 (Though I know one kid with AS obsessed with movies ans one with catastrophe, who while both smart in their areas are highly focused even for AS and thus unlikely to do well on an IQ test).

I still think that the autism spectrum classification is idiotic.
It seems to be based strictly on sensory intergration and social skills issues.

I don't think that we think any more like people with Kanner's than we do like normal people. (Though the only mentally ret*d people who I've talked to enough to get an idea of this are Down's or brain-damaged {and I use all these terms precisely as they litterally are} and so thus can't be sure of Kanner's.
As far as I'm concerned normal people just happen to be the majority, and try to classify in a way that makes no sense logically: "How well can they conform to our standards?"

Drives me crazy when people say "Oh, you have autism?" (though again, in fairness, it's been a while)