Page 3 of 8 [ 115 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 8  Next

Postperson
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jul 2004
Age: 67
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,023
Location: Uz

12 Aug 2008, 1:09 am

I can BS, like humour, exaggerate for humourous effect, have been told I could do comedy etc. So I understand about wordplay and tricks with words, so what's the difference with lying that I don't understand? Is it that it involves body language and eye contact rather than wordplay?



nomad21
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 16 Feb 2008
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 276

12 Aug 2008, 1:15 am

I've been told I'm a terrible liar, many times before. I can't lie in real life. On the internet, it's possible to do some lies, because all you gotta do is type what you want them to believe, although I rarely do this unless I really need to.



GuyTypingOnComputer
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jun 2008
Age: 56
Gender: Male
Posts: 221

12 Aug 2008, 1:56 am

I am horrible at lying so I do not do it. Like others here, I am honest to a fault. My mind runs on logical truths and I have a tough time saying something that isn't true (i.e., wrong) unless I am being obviously silly.

I don't really have a problem with being too trusting of other people because I am skeptical of everything I hear and start with the premise that they aren't truthful unless proven otherwise. Even if I think someone is being truthful, I still often question whether the person has an ulterior motive.



Mon
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 2 Jul 2008
Age: 50
Gender: Female
Posts: 45
Location: Australia

12 Aug 2008, 2:40 am

I don't lie, in fact I find it very difficult and usually end up telling TOO much of the truth. I hate it, and later wonder to myself why didn't I just say I was busy, or feeling OK or whatever the easiest answer to a question would have been.

The downside for being so darn honest (apart from making an absolute fool of myself for divulging too much information) is that I can be very unforgiving if I catch someone out on a lie that effects me directly.



michel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2007
Age: 54
Gender: Male
Posts: 735
Location: Ecuador

12 Aug 2008, 2:43 am

I can't lie.

I just can't .

Dunno why, just cannot get myself to do it.

A lie is illogical.

The Truth is logical.

Only the Truth leads to the correct outcome.



Postperson
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jul 2004
Age: 67
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,023
Location: Uz

12 Aug 2008, 2:53 am

Any professed liars care to talk about the mechanics of lying? I don't understand much about it.



ricewenchie
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2007
Age: 59
Gender: Female
Posts: 3

12 Aug 2008, 3:04 am

My son is 18 and an Aspie. He has a fantastic writing ability for science fiction/fantasy. He carries around a very vivid imagination and tells great story
ies. Unfortunately, he gets carried away and does fall in to lying about things. He also had a great example in his step-father (my ex).

So, yes...he had to be taught but he can lie.

Not all Aspies lie and not all liars are Aspies...

8)



BokeKaeru
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Jun 2008
Age: 37
Gender: Female
Posts: 535
Location: Boston, MA

12 Aug 2008, 3:54 am

I used to have a lot of trouble with lying. I'd always give some sign of hiding or making something up that would easily be detected. I CAN lie now, having learned to do so for reasons of self-preservation, mostly, but I'm careful to not get caught up in it, to know that I'm lying so I keep my story straight, and I only do it when the alternative would be very bad. There are still sometimes, however, where I know or am told that it would be BETTER, for myself or the situation, to lie, and I just can't bring myself to, because it seems unnecessary and possibly harmful in the long run.



catspurr
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Jan 2008
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Posts: 545

12 Aug 2008, 3:56 am

I don't understand why it's considered a good normal trait to lie.

Why do people bother telling their children anymore to be honest?



Pobodys_Nerfect
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Mar 2008
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 600
Location: New Zealand

12 Aug 2008, 4:09 am

We can do anything we set our mind to including lying and manipulating. I think if some of us learnt how to do it we'd have less meltdowns.



2ukenkerl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,242

12 Aug 2008, 5:44 am

ricewenchie wrote:
My son is 18 and an Aspie. He has a fantastic writing ability for science fiction/fantasy. He carries around a very vivid imagination and tells great story
ies. Unfortunately, he gets carried away and does fall in to lying about things. He also had a great example in his step-father (my ex).

So, yes...he had to be taught but he can lie.

Not all Aspies lie and not all liars are Aspies...

8)


Well, forgive me for saying, but my mother earlier claimed I was lying about things I DIDN'T! I was SHOCKED when she recently said I DIDN'T earlier. Oh, *I* knew I didn't, but SHE earlier indicated I had. And a lot of people tend to mistake the truth for a lie. Also, your son may even have been in cases where I have been where wording, etc... is used to associate one truth for another, and you have to LIE to get the right outcome. After all, you shouldn't be punished because of a "twisting of the facts", or an incorrect association.

I can't think of a good example now, but it would be like someone hiding cookies from kids, and they later found some were missing, and one asking a child if he found the cookies. Maybe he DID find the cookies, but he lies and says "NO" because he knows he will otherwise be accused of eating the cookies.

Almost all the lies I tell are of that nature. In fact, I had that EXACT same problem a few times, where someone ACTUALLY thought I ate the cookies. I guess that can't be TOO unique, because.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Stole_ ... kie_Jar%3F

So, hopefully, you can see how OTHER people's lies might have to be countered by a lie to get at the truth.

Labpet,

Somehow I doubt you and daniel are THAT naive! You seem to know better here. As for not lying, yeah, I used to be like that, and NEVER liked the idea of lying. If they came up with a REAL lie detector, I would be HAPPY! If it cost $1000 I would buy one just to use on coworkers when they lie to get ahead or get others in undeserved trouble. BTW if that is considered being a "tattletale", SO BE IT!



Reodor_Felgen
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Sep 2007
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,300

12 Aug 2008, 5:46 am

I can lie, but I have problems distinguishing between white lies and ordinary lies.


_________________
WP doesn't have a working first amendment.

Fuck. This will override the swear word filter.


Bradleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 May 2008
Age: 34
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 6,669
Location: Brisbane, Australia

12 Aug 2008, 5:56 am

I have alot of trouble lieing.


_________________
Through dream I travel, at lantern's call
To consume the flames of a kingdom's fall


trewissick
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 17 Apr 2008
Gender: Female
Posts: 27

12 Aug 2008, 5:59 am

nope- not true.
though i do have tendancy to be over truthfull- answering questions with FULL replies- ive learnt to lie for self preservation.

'your noise is driving me mad- i cant cope with niose, please be quiet'- not very effective.
'i have a migraine- please be quiet'- gets results.

i too have lived a lot of lies through out my life-it makes life easier. i find things very dificult at times, because of asp's,and find it dificult to communicate this- because of asp's- so its easier to lie than spend my time getting frustrated.
also, with the 'you dont LOOK autistic- you must be LYING' thing- sometimes honesty just begets trouble.



2ukenkerl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,242

12 Aug 2008, 6:06 am

trewissick wrote:
nope- not true.
though i do have tendancy to be over truthfull- answering questions with FULL replies- ive learnt to lie for self preservation.

'your noise is driving me mad- i cant cope with niose, please be quiet'- not very effective.
'i have a migraine- please be quiet'- gets results.

i too have lived a lot of lies through out my life-it makes life easier. i find things very dificult at times, because of asp's,and find it dificult to communicate this- because of asp's- so its easier to lie than spend my time getting frustrated.
also, with the 'you dont LOOK autistic- you must be LYING' thing- sometimes honesty just begets trouble.


BOY, that IS another thing I lie about! A person, coming up with a plausible and non insulting answer as to why I act a certain way, may find me in seeming agreement, because it is better than incessant guesses and may lead to further comfort on my part. And the deal about having a migraine is along the lines of things I have done.

And I LOVE your emphasis of "FULL" replies. I STILL do that to a fair degree, but did that ALL THE TIME untile I was like 35. And I HATE people asking me to say YES or NO to a question that is NOT phrased well enough.



Ishmael
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jul 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 953
Location: Australia

12 Aug 2008, 6:22 am

I lie constantly, and I'm really good at it.
It's a skill. I don't particularly enjoy it, but, if it's lie or get rocks thrown at my head... I vote lie.


_________________
Oh, well, fancy that! Isn't that neat, eh?