Deep injustice and the NT-world

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I haven't seen any hate threads about NT's. It's too bad at least here that one can't from time to time safely voice their pain, frustration, etc. concerning those differences and likewise disadvantages that are experienced many times. It's an NT world and everything is geared for and about the NT. It isn't an us-them issue to from time to time talk about some of the challenges.

I am NT and this isn't true. I have always been introverted, I never cared much for socializing, and I always favored subjects that most people considered "boring" or "arcane," like math and science.

I just saying, that belonging to a designation of people who lack an autistic condition (which is the majority of humanity) doesn't mean that we have it easy all the time.

This was the lead in sentence taken from the post of the quote you listed.
No offense to anyone -- but any words that follow these - will have an tone of pious sanctimony.

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How can you interpret this statement as anything other than "us vs. them":



It's one thing to honestly discuss the challenges - there have been lots of discussions here about feeling resentment because of how people with autism have been treated. It's quite another to try to justify looking for opportunities to hurt anyone who isn't autistic - simply BECAUSE they are not autistic. Sorry, I think that attitude is indefensible.

agreed

Jael, I don't see how your question without a question mark is worthy of a reply. And it's not because the question mark is missing either.

MemberSix, what specifically have NTs done to cause substantial irreversible harm to you?

My OP was an exaggerated take on sentiments I've had.

But some have grasped it as the opportunity to use it as a stick with which to beat - a greater reflection on themselves than it is on me.

This thread's not going anywhere particularly useful, so I'm butting out.

I can see where you're coming from and why, but disagree with the way you would respond to it. Not every NT, or normal person in any other way, deserves to be punished. Those people who go out of their way to hurt others just by virtue of them being outside of the norms, and those institutions that tolerate and even perpetuate such behavior? Yeah, do whatever you can to bring them down and make them unlikely to hurt anyone again. But some NTs might know what exclusion feels like too, and they could be valuable allies in combating discrimination and abuse. The only way we're different is in what we're being ostracized for and how it affects us. Otherwise, people who are different from the norm have more in common than not, I'd say. It'd be more effective in stopping injustice for all such marginalized people to get together and tell the world that ALL exclusion based on arbitrary criteria is wrong rather than competing to see who's suffered more.

Bokekaeru, That would definately be agreed.

Oh my God, stop with this victim crap. Grow some f*****g balls, there's worse things than having AS.

Sounds like another case of "spoiled brat syndrome" to me.

In your book - and only because you don't know any different.

And keep your expletives to yourself, they make you look even more of a twat.

no, but some parts of Society and its hipocrisy I do..

no, but they can deal with the social intricacies. Which is what the OP aid, because they can get the social cues and the like they're better off in social situations.



Even if it's all a social construct; given how the social norms change so damn much over the years, location and other factors? Even if the Rind study placed the bolded part in massive question and the US Congress formally censured it? SOCIETY and its' BS makes things that way.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&c ... 7i5kqjcYTA



Even if humans still have underlining animal instincts?




PROTIP: Most of Society considered Autistic people a bunch of ret*ds who need to be killed off or "cured". the so-called "Low-Functioning" Autistic people literally get the shaft in that regard



Troll?

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A lot of people do tell me that there are some nice loving N.T's but sadly I have to admit, I haven't met one of those yet! I do not love N.T's but I do not hate their guts either. I see them as perfectly confused people who only see themselves as correct beings...I know that not many N.T's and Aspies get on but maybe thats all intended for a reason. I'd sort of say Aspies are like Cats and Horses and N.T's are like Dogs and Chickens!
But yes, I just get on with my life try and fit in and if others don't like it then *shurgs* their problem!