And all this time, I was in the lion's den

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MemberSix's original post appeared to be the beginning of a slow glide into a trolling session, and his subsequent rhetoric has borne that out.

MemberSix, you are right, you are in the Lion's Den - now you may go back to your Curebie Hall of NT Science and rant there.

Many of us on the autism spectrum are too busy building computer systems and writing the software that helps your little world run to pay attention to the blasts of hot air issuing forth from your face.

Spanking post, Kingdom.

What a refreshingly balanced view you have.

Respect !

And yes, it's natural that as an Autist, you would find the prospect of a major life change somewhat daunting.

Keep on keeping on, dude.

What a great contribution.
Should have saved your time, dude.

Just ditch this thread - he's made a few rants, thrown a few accusations without really thinking them through. He's not going to respond with anything other than insults, so there is little point. He's made his choice - this's my last post on this thread.

Aw come on, don't pout !

Obviously I'm not calling you genocidal. If you read my post "objectively" you would know that what I say could be boiled down to the simple expression "careful what you wish for".



Cure advocacy affects living autistics very much. Let's discount entirely the "soft arguments" of personal dignity, worth and self-determination and talk about, say, life advantages. Someone born a year before gene therapy is routinely practised, or in a different nation, or a different state, or to financially disadvantaged parents, etcetera, may have a difficult time getting aid or recognition or a job or even a friend - because the landscape will have dramatically changed to one in which autism has become a modifiable condition. For some. You can't change A without affecting B. It's not possible. It might not directly affect living autistics but it most certainly indirectly will. If nothing else, it would help justify peoples' poor attitudes toward autistic people and/or their parents. Even you, who said you wouldn't force it on people, place the onus of your value judgement on parents who don't wish to force a cure on their (born or not) children. So - you wouldn't require a cure, but you would call the people who don't require it "monsters" and "hypocrites"?

I think you are pursuing an oversimplified ideal, and defending it badly. Go back and think about it some more. Maybe this goes back to the whole "careful what you wish for" thing again....

Of course, we could always drag the chestnut of parents' rights and/or religious freedom into this thing and really blow it up, but I'm done making points. You don't want to hear them.

Didn't read like that to me.
You need to be a little more judicious in the analogies you bandy about.



Yes, but your inference is that I propound applying it directly to living Autistic individuals.

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