do i have aspergers or am i just a loser?
Girls are not that different from guys, anyhow. I would suggest finding some friends who happen to be girls, and getting a feel for the gender. Maybe you will turn out to like one of the girls as more than a friend, or maybe you will find somebody else, but for now don't put pressure on yourself that you HAVE to date. You don't... and anyway, a friendship that already works out is more likely to be a successful romance than if you just met each other and are trying to look good.
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I'm no pro tho.
Are you sure you aren't thinking of schizoid? Alot of aspies get upset that they don't have friends but then when they get them don't know how to keep them unless of course they no longer struggle with aspergers.
Some elves are this way too.
well, define upset ;p I used to get a bit depressed about being left out, looking back I think it was more like being upset about not understanding what it was that I was doing wrong, not about the fact that noone talks to me. I'va always been pretty content with myself and didn't need any people around me. always had a few good friends though so maybe that's why I didn't care about meeting new people.
reading posts on this forum though I noticed that a vast majority of aspies don't really care so much about it. maybe they just don't admit it, I don't know.
I realized that I felt seriously awkward with my peers when I was four years old. A start in middle school seems late for AS.
Your total lack of real friendship despite you trying does seem pretty chronic though and your obsessions/pre-occupations are also persistent and strong.
For me, my AS gives me a constant feeling of tension and stress. I can't stand all kinds of sounds, touch, light and of course I desperately try to avoid unpredictable social situations.
You would need to get a proper diagnosis to be sure. Your mother needs to be interviewed about how you behaved as a child.
I am diagnosed an aspie, but I do care that I fail with finding and keeping satisfying friendships.
Another suggestion I have is for you to remember the odds are in your favor. The more women you meet and talk to the more likely you are to find "the one" or at least some friends, maybe? If that's what you want. In other words, don't let yourself get discouraged by rejection. I can only assume since you are thinking of yourself as a loser at certain times that your self esteem isn't doing well and since it isn't you more than others might feel rejection more intensely and might be tempted to isolate yourself to keep from feeling the confusion and discomfort of being rejected. This is not good.
Remember this about other things you attempt in life, the more you do, the harder you try, the better the odds...it increases the odds of your success.
what if we stopped using the world 'Loser', isn't it a construction in the NT world that divides this world in losers and winners or basically have and have nots. Never I heard of be's and be not's. Why use their terminology if we resent the NT values?
We are always more than a loser or a winner, depending the culture and context. According to capitalistic society I am surely a loser as a handicapped, a child, or an elderly person is...but f**k the notion of loser.
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Your Aspie score: 152 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 48 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
I've always been an awkward person ever since I was in about middle school.. for some reason I had a hard time making friends, and when I did have friends, I had an even worse time keeping friends. ironically, before middle school, i had plenty of friends and was well-liked. i dont know what the **** happened but all of a sudden some of my friends gradually became my enemies and picked on me and got new kids to pick on me
I've had problems starting conversations with people and just dealing with my shyness. in high school, i ended up with NO friends going to my college. i made few friends in general, none of whom were close. i was picked on and humiliated constantly, MOSTLY by HONOR students.
I don't tell anyone about it, as I've always thought of myself as relatively normal, since at least thats how i was when i was young. but over the years, things have just been getting worse.
in additino to my shyness, there are other things taht make me think I may have aspergers
towards the end of high school, i was almost completely obssessed with Magic the Gathering. like, i would spend at least a few hours per day reading up on card strategies and even researching cards that no one used. at tournaments, i would always be the first one to know the exact stats of each card. i could not concentrate on school or anything else. even during classes, sometimes i would make "decklists" about the cards from that game
in addition, during this age of playing MTG, i thought i had finally made some high school friends. turns out, they were just ****ing using me. i had slight suspicions that they were doing so, but i didnt realize it until one of the bullies actually mentioned how one of the other bullies was definitely using me. so i ditched those ***holes, and havent found a group of friends since.
in fact, i spent my sophomore year in college as a complete recluse and focused almost 24/7 on academics and self-studying for pleasure. i convinced myself that it was pointless to make friends and to hate people for their idioacy and that i was smarter than everyone else. i LITERALLY did nothing but focus on academics and reading. other than that, i spent the rest of my times at home with my parents. i saw NO friends
i then decided junior year that people skills are important in the real world and tried to be social again. at first, i was very painfully shy and eventually increased my socializing to the extent that im just very shy now, not painfully shy. i'm still a total loner. in fact, i spent the entire last year joining like 5 different clubs/organizations, but since i've been asocial for so long, i felt so different from everyone else and couldnt find my "niche" despite how hard and desperately i tried.
also, i have NO way of telling if a girl likes me or not. for example, there was this one girl i met in one of those clubs that may have liked me, but i didnt think about it until a few MONTHS later. one time, when we tutored some students, she touched my fingers. also, when we walked by on college campus a few times, i noticed each time she smiled and her face MAY have been a little redish, indicating blushing? also, the couple times we met in the club, she tried to initiate conversations and smile and be friendly towards with me, but me being the ret*d, i thought nothign of them.
i've had suicidal thoughts for quite awhile, in fact ever since middle school until now, with the only break during my MTG period, where I thought i finally had friends
im currently a electrical engineering major. i've always had narrow interests in math and science subjects. despite being in the math and science honors classes, i was in reading development class in high school
so to summarize, Some of the interests I got obsessed with over the years:
From age 10 to 15: sports
15 to 19: magic the gathering
19 to 20: math, science, reading
20 to present: math, science, reading, but not as excessively as before, though still excessive by normal standards. i "try" to be more normal, to no avail
on a couple websites that feature quizzes if you have aspergers, i scored in the "highly autistic" range both times. im beginng to think its true. ive never been diagnosed with it, even though i've seen plenty of psychological therapists.
do the online aspie quizz
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Your Aspie score: 152 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 48 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
I have to say that I disagree with this approach. You'll waste your time and start to hate women. Think of it this way, if you want to have your dream job are you going to work at every place you can to see if that is it? All it will do is make you miserable.
This is a joke, right ?
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As a child I was a difficult case for my parents. I used to cry all the time and was always problematic in company of other children. While being alone I was very calm. I could spend hours playing with a belt wringing it in and out -> repetitive behaviour. I used to do stimming a lot back then. Like rubbing my feet one against the other when in bed trying to fall asleep what was always very difficult and took hours, also because of the sensory issues i had since i didn't like the bed sheets touching my body. any of that is familiar? any sensory issues? any stimming?
and yes, what was your score on http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php ?
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As a child I was a difficult case for my parents. I used to cry all the time and was always problematic in company of other children. While being alone I was very calm. I could spend hours playing with a belt wringing it in and out -> repetitive behaviour. I used to do stimming a lot back then. Like rubbing my feet one against the other when in bed trying to fall asleep what was always very difficult and took hours, also because of the sensory issues i had since i didn't like the bed sheets touching my body. any of that is familiar? any sensory issues? any stimming?
and yes, what was your score on http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php ?
Both which is part of the ASD.
any sensory issues? any stimming?
and yes, what was your score on http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php ?
Both which is part of the ASD.
i am sorry i was not clear, or maybe i didn't understand you now, i don't know. just to want make clear here that my questions were for MickeyJones, regarding your note.
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You sound dangerously close to a real loser. But you sound smart. You should use your intelligence to do something productive like making money or attracting women. If you are a real aspie, you have a high IQ most likely, and that is your best weapon. You can turn it towards anything you want, and be a superstar in that field. Do that, and you'll feel better about yourself.
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Mickey,
I had "friends" that turned on me as well.
You're not a loser.
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