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17 Sep 2008, 2:59 pm

My mom, my dad, my brother, teachers, shrinks, other kids. Pretty much everyone who came into contact with me.



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17 Sep 2008, 3:58 pm

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...based on a misinterpretation borne of Aspinoid 'visual' impairment.
That's the point. It's not a misinterpretation.
NT behavior is based on herd-instinct. Everything follows from that. They don't understand themselves or their own motives.
If I don't understand or refuse to play, they automatically presume that it's because there's something wrong with me. The presumption is based on circular reasoning.

Tell me again why I should send my son across the ocean to kill some stranger?
To protect the interests of some fat cat? Why would that be smart?
So that the fat cat can continue to destroy the environment, the culture, the political system, the economy and eventually himself? At what point does reason or honesty enter the equation?

Tell me again why I should accept drugs or a lobotomy from some doctor who doesn't understand himself and makes irrational presumptions about me, based on other irrational presumptions...

The problem is not that I don't understand, but that I do.


No offense, but I am detecting the faint aroma of paranoia. I read something someone named Magnus posted. Something to the effect of NTs play games. I agree with that. People play games with each other constantly. Those who play the game are in those who don't know how ridiculed, mocked and made fun of. It's how social heirarchy is established and how bonding occurs and even the people who are lousy at playing the game and come in last and next to last still play the game with each other to see if one can keep from coming in last place.
I notice, in this forum, certain posters play the same type of games and I think it's very NT like so I question how different everyone really is from everyone else.
I think you can be on the spectrum and still be good at playing the game, convince yourself you have no social intuition, then give yourself a complex about your competence based on fallacies about yourself.
I don't think I am good at playing the game because I would rather be introspective, obsess and dwell than figure out how to manipulate others into not liking someone else or making up stuff to say behind someone's back because I don't like them for some reason. Perhaps I think their social skills are lacking and make erroneous assumptions about them based on my subtle detection something's off.

When it comes down to it, I judge everyone on their usage of italics in their posts. In these threads, anyway.



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17 Sep 2008, 4:01 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
When it comes down to it, I judge everyone on their usage of italics in their posts. In these threads, anyway.

interesting...



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17 Sep 2008, 4:02 pm

hey thanks! nice to see some encouragement!



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17 Sep 2008, 4:06 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
hey thanks! nice to see some encouragement!

Any time



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18 Sep 2008, 3:57 am

Hi OOooOOOoooOOO, thanks for remembering my comment. :D

People here play games too but it is more blatant and in your face. I wonder how many aspies have a hard time with these games too. We should try to remember that some of these people here get offended easily and may have a harder time with it. Maybe they should try to lighten up and not care what others say. I think people give each other a hard time just to see what the other person is really made of.

In my opinion, most people tend to project what they think about themselves onto others and also tend to think that others see them that way too. Does that make sense?
Being judgmental usually backfires.


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18 Sep 2008, 9:55 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
When it comes down to it, I judge everyone on their usage of italics in their posts. In these threads, anyway.


I constantly use italics, so what's this supposed to mean?

To judge others on their use of italics means reading and thinking means you assume I and everyone else who uses italics is like you think I/others are.


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18 Sep 2008, 9:58 am

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Modern society, and even our best psychiatrists, judge us as sane or insane simply on the basis of how well we conform to “cultural norms.” The amazing talent of being able to cut through the insanity of one’s own culture is, by definition, insane. My objection is to this basic premise. The premise itself is insane.

Being well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society is no measure of sanity. -Krishnamurti


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18 Sep 2008, 4:07 pm

My family, other kids mostly.



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18 Sep 2008, 5:07 pm

Someone on the Internet caused me to hate the old me, so I went from being a Mod to a modern day Punker. I'm in love with the new me. :O)


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18 Sep 2008, 7:34 pm

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Someone on the Internet caused me to hate the old me, so I went from being a Mod to a modern day Punker. I'm in love with the new me. :O)


How did you manage to change/ make yourself a better person? I wouldn't mind being someone else.



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18 Sep 2008, 7:39 pm

I don't hate myself. I had taught myself to hate myself but I learned better through clear thinking and detachment from my emotions. No one else is responsible for my emotional state, that is my responsibility as a person. I choose to experience emotion, emotion does not experience me.



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19 Sep 2008, 2:56 am

My parents taught me to hate myself...

But I was blessed to have awesome grandparents, awesome uncles...and later on, awesome adult friends, especially men, who taught me to love myself again...

Now? I say F$%$#% to all those idiots...I couldn't care less about most of them...I play their BS game with them when I feel like it and ignore them when I feel like it too...



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19 Sep 2008, 7:31 am

hale_bopp wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Someone on the Internet caused me to hate the old me, so I went from being a Mod to a modern day Punker. I'm in love with the new me. :O)


How did you manage to change/ make yourself a better person? I wouldn't mind being someone else.


I've looked at the things that I've wanted to change. I've also decided that I was stuck in a rut for a very long time. I've asked myself what things I really like, and went with that. I was also sick of people trying to take advantage of me.


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19 Sep 2008, 10:41 am

It's nice to be who you are. JUST LOVE YOURSELF.
We need to develop some social skills but it dosen't mean that we have to change or
hate ourselves.



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19 Sep 2008, 2:12 pm

wrongchild wrote:
It's nice to be who you are. JUST LOVE YOURSELF.
We need to develop some social skills but it dosen't mean that we have to change or
hate ourselves.

I love myself - and everyone else can feck off.

Hehe.