Does my 12 year old girl have psychological issues?

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WOW!...alot of the things you're saying could be considered characteristic of schizophrenia. I can't believe you're saying all this, You're no different then the people saying autism is caused by mercury! you're talking ridiculous conspiracy theories and trying to discourage people from taking drugs that would probably greatly help them, just like the people that are saying don't vaccinate now. This is doing alot of harm and is ridiculous! STOP IT!

Site your sources of this 70-85% chance of recovery from psychosis without med, please!! ! I would love to see that. Neuroleptics or anti-psychotics DO NOT always cause brain damage! That's crap do some more research. What did you read, one or two obscure studies from the 80's that some weird activist group wrote? Yes, there is evidence of some neurological issues occuring from anti-psychotics here and there. It's not like severe brain damage. The most common thing is tardive dyskinesia where pretty much the person has involuntary motor movements such as sticking out their tongue or smacking lips. It's nothing like really huge and the symptoms often go away after the medication is stopped. Now, mind you, this is mostly with the older anti-psychotics. Luckily our wonderfully drug companies, make drugs to HELP YOU! not DISABLE YOU! and that would be why they've now came up with atypical anti-psychotics for people. The atypicals have very very few side-effects and have been found to be extremely effective. I've taken them, I have NO BRAIN DAMAGE! I'm fine and they worked great when I was having psychotic episodes.

I don't even know what to say about all this. I could rip all of your statements to pieces. Absolutely none of your statements have any proof or evidence. People like you piss me off. All I'm going to say is I suffer from psychosis, depression, anxiety, and all sorts of other things. diagnosed schizoaffective: bipolar type, panic disorder, and ADHD. I suffered for 8 years horribly before I finally admitted defeat and sought out treatment at the point that I became so debilitated I could barely function. I mean I wasn't sleeping for a week at a time, I was having panic attacks constantly, mood swings, hallucinations, extremely depressed. Every day was a struggle just to get by and not want to kill myself. Now, 1 year later, with the help of the drug lamictal, some therapy and work with a PSYCHIATRIST! and a little bit of a helping hand from vocational rehab getting my life on track. I'm in college with a 4.0 GPA, I'm HAPPY! I'm stable, I'm functioning well, I'm not having mood swings, panic attacks, psychotic or manic episodes, I sleep great, etc...

So you say drugs and psychiatry don't work? I got an idea SHUT UP AND KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!! ! Don't ever discourage people with problems from getting the help they need. If you don't want help that's fine go be delusional and paranoid but don't let it rub off on other people!

Sorry, I'm not trying to be a jerk but I've known enough people that have killed themselves because they didn't believe they could get help. Didn't believe the drugs would work. They gave up hope and didn't try because people like you told them it wouldn't help. That's not fair at all....

Last edited by psychotic_jester on 06 Dec 2008, 8:57 am, edited 2 times in total.

OK OK...last message...I don't know how so many people construed these symptoms to be traits of bipolar disorder but they're really not. Bipolar is characterized by episodes of mania and depression meaning she would have ups and downs that are slowly changing over time, not rapid like he was describing. Rapid mood changes generally are connected to hormones but also occur in borderline personality disorder(BPD). BPD is not diagnosed before the age of 18 however as personalities are still developing before 18 and these traits may change.

Basically all I'm saying is from the information given, bi-polar disorder is not a logically deducible diagnoses. If she was bi-polar, once again, she would have episodes of mania in which she would exhibit; extreme energy, with rapid/pressured speech, racing thought, not sleeping or sleeping very little but still being very hyper, and many other things followed by a crash and sever depression with suicidal behavior and all that jazz...I could blab about all the other symptoms but I don't feel like listing them all. That's just a rough idea. If those symptoms are going on, then I would worry about bi-polar disorder...otherwise, discard that idea....

wow, I've been blabbering alot in this thread...well hopefully this was helpful for everyone. If anyone else needs info on psychology feel free to contact me...9 years studying...happy to help...

I would say definitely take her to see a psychiatrist. Maybe two, to get a second opinion.

I would also add that hearing voices is a lot more common than people realise, and that hearing voices in itself doesn't mean you have schizophrenia. There are a lot more other symptoms for a diagnosis of schizophrenia to be made.

Saying she has an anyonymous close friend with psychotic symptoms doesn't mean it's her having these problems. I have said similar things because if one of my friends trusts me with knowing they hear things that aren't real, I have no right to tell other people what they've told me. Also, the next time they come round my house, I wouldn't want my mum to be thinking 'Are they crazy?' the whole time and finding difficult to act normal now that I've told her about the problems they're having.

Well, since everyone here probably has you worried to death already, I'm going to tell you there is a good chance it is something simple.

I've had similar episodes at different points in my life. They've happened when I've been really stressed. However, it wasn't the stress that did it, but the fact that stress causes me to stop eating. I'm vegetarian as it is, so I have to be careful to get enough nutrients.

It turned out I'm prone to B-vitamin deficiency.
I now take supplements daily to make sure it doesn't happen.

Psychological symptoms of B deficiency: depression, personality changes, delusions, hallucinations

I'm not saying that's what it is, I'm just saying check the simple things first before putting your daughter through experiences she may not need to have.

Well, they did give me B12 injection when I was in the hospital. I think they must do that as a matter of course, just in case of a deficiency, because it is quite harmless in anyone who doesn't have an overdose of B12. (Well, or hemophilia. Heh.)

Then the flaw is in the actual psychiatry practice at this point in time, not the psychiatrists themselves. If anything they're misinformed. They're not out to scam and harm people.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure some are, but to write off all of them as scam artists is just silly.

Okay I'm more inclined now to think she might be really seeing ghosts. One thing is for sure she is obviously a very sensitive young lady and you should be careful not to let her watch any of the numerous ghost hunter tv shows that are on tv constantly. Those shows are much too scary for most adults let alone youngsters.

If you really want her evaluated take her to a psychologist or neuropsychologist. MD's will not understand and psychiatrists are guaranteed to put her on drugs because that's all they do is drug people. Since she has a tendency towards seizures be careful of antidepressants because some of them, such as Welbutrin will cause seizures in people prone to them. I had that happen to me where some moron doctor gave me Welbutrin and I started having seizures and auras after I had not had a seizure since I was like 9 yrs old! Perhaps take her to a naturopathic doctor. She could have some kind of endocrine imbalance as low thyroid has been known to cause all sorts of mental issues.

Psychiatrists do not simply drug kids, they take into account many issues, and surely they would take into account any seizure issues. It is a negative myth that psychiatrists just say "Here." and hand you a bottle of pills.

That's true. Outside of the NHS, that is.

Every doctor I saw on my search for a diagnosis - from my GP to the mental health people - tried to force me to take antidepressants with little knowledge of my medical or psychological background (I'm a transplant from the US). Apparently going into a doctor's office and thinking there is something wrong with you is grounds for being medicated.

yes thats what is. however, most people who become psychiatrists are sociopaths and people with mental problems themselves, who gravitate toward the proffesion because they get off on lording over people and filling their pockets. very few people become psychiatrists because they care.

also look into the possiblity she has an infection. certain microbia like lymes disease or t condi can cause mental symptoms.

Shivani,

You're not going to get what you need from this forum. Take your child to a doctor. There's no way around it.

Getting such a wide array of opinions only shows only a medical opinion is going to help. It not only will give you an answer or a lead, it will help your daughter.

Don't worry about asking questions of the professionals either. If you have a doc you feel is good, he's not going to let your worries sway his/her professional opinion.

I agree with some others about having the epilepsy theory checked out. It may by manifesting differently.

She needs something, but it's not here on the board, Shivani. Make an appointment.

Good luck, and I hope it turns out well.

Wow, that is a completely wrong and biased assumption to have of all psychiatrists! Maybe you had a bad experience with a psychiatrist, but I certainly would not go as far to say they are sociopaths. Sociopaths are people who murder and have a general disregard for human life, in case this was a matter of you simply not understanding the extent of labeling someone with that personality type.

I would have to agree with this again. I have only met 2 psychiatrists in my life, and both of them were very caring individuals.

no i really do have a good understanding. the bricks in the rotten ediface of psychiatry are being exposed to the public, and the public doesnt like it.