Trying to get an aspie to act NT.
AmberEyes wrote:
MR wrote:
AmberEyes wrote:
Tails wrote:
Nobody can make an AS person NT. And no one should expect an AS person to conform exactly to NT 'standards' and expectations.
How come I've been expected to then?
Maybe because sometimes people do things they shouldn't?
Or maybe because different people have different ideas of how things should be?
Which people?
I'd be grateful if you could elaborate please.
Thanks.
It doesn't matter what people. Any people.
Tails wrote about how things should be, not how they are. Just because things should be a certain way doesn't mean they are. Just because doing something is wrong doesn't mean you won't encounter people doing it.
And, as far as different people having different ideas of how things should be, or what in general usually should be done... just because Tails said something should be a certain way, and just because you agree, does not mean that the people you interact with also think it should be that way.
You and Tails may both agree that it's wrong to expect and AS person to conform to NT standards, but that doesn't mean you won't encounter someone who thinks doing so it perfectly okay.
We don't live in a world where everything is how everyone thinks it should be. Sometimes some of us are going to find people doing things that we think people just shouldn't do. That's life.
If everybody thought the same, the world would be dull. Besides, thinking differently can be a huge help in some situations. Not reacting as expected even more so.
Why worry about current trends in anything? They never stay the same anyway.
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MR wrote:
We don't live in a world where everything is how everyone thinks it should be. Sometimes some of us are going to find people doing things that we think people just shouldn't do. That's life.
I know. But it's up to them isn't it? It's not my business to go interfering in other people's lives. As long as they don't endanger themselves or others, I'm usually fine with the wide diversity of behaviour in the world. People are individuals and enjoy different things so it's not fair to expect everyone to behave in the same way. I accept that there are different personalities and ways of doing things. Different demeanours can have different roles to play in the world.
What I do take issue with is people pathologising my personality and converting my family's values and belief system into a set of "negative" statements that need to be corrected. This is a very one sided and therefore misleading point of view. My family's values aren't an illness: it's just how we are. Some of us are jolly interesting and humourous too. I'm not saying that we we're flawless and perfect: we're not!
I'm saying forcing me to behave in an expected way in hyper-social situations like using a toothpick to dig the garden. A toothpick is a precision tool. The personality abilities (or tool) don't fit the environment. It's neither productive nor sensible.
Likewise, you wouldn't use a spade to clean someone's teeth either, so this personality/environment analogy works both ways. People often forget this. I have nothing against the human "spades" of this world doing tasks they enjoy and feeling naturally comfortable doing these tasks. I might think sometimes think that what they're doing is not very sensible, but I let them get on with it. I don't like upsetting people if they're happy already.
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