Fantastic Article about Autism and Astrology!

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That's what I thought, too. There is no way that autism could be "on the rise." This is just a view common to a lot of NTs. It's always been here, it just has a name, now. A positive thing about the growing attention being paid, is that some people actually envy me for my nerdy ways. That's a lot better than getting beat up for it, in my school years!

I knew that pretty much all along too, there is just finally a "name" for it and knowledge.

@lionesss

since you think mercury is exalted in aquarius, it would follow that you also feel mercury doesn't do well in leo. [detriment or fall i can't remember which]
in my unconventional opinion, leo should be a fine place for mercury. [in square to exalted moon however, sounds a bit dicey.]

i was just thinking that there may be three exceptions to mercury in aquarius where mercury would be sufficiently stabilized and grounded by house placement [to withstand the intensely erratic aquarius energies] and thus able to function beyond its normal capabilities, i.e., in an exalted way.

are you famiar with the natural zodiac? the 3 houses where mercury may do well in aquarius are 3, 6, and 5. in the natural zodiac those houses are ruled or owned by mercury (3 gemini, 6 virgo) and the sun (5 leo).
mercury is so childlike and generally uninhibited that it just has to do well in the 5th house (of children); makes sense it would function well in leo too. from what the pop astrology books say-- of all the signs, mercury-ruled gemini is supposed to be most compatible with leo.

do you have any suggestions about applying astrology to the autism spectrum?

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I woke up on Dec 20 with a strong feeling that someone from a classic TV series will die. Five days later Eartha Kitt who was one of the catwomen on the batman series died.

did that strong feeling come from a dream you had?

Yes I personally don't feel that Mercury does well in Leo, and I believe it is fall there. I personally don't believe that Mercury does well in any fire sign. It is true that Mercury is associated with youth but I see it more as logic, reasoning and communication. We know that Mercury is detriment in Sagittarius, and I don't think it does that great in Aries.. as Aries is impulsive and typically acts before thinking (though my astrology teacher from way back said that Mercury is a ruler of Aries in esoteric astrology.. I don't delve too much in that). A lot of it however, depends on the relationships it has with other planets as well. If you say have Mercury in Aries trining or sextling Saturn in a very good condition, that can bring out Aries' positive traits easily. However, funny thing is, Mercury in 5th house (even though naturally ruled by Leo) is a good place (though Mercury likes being the 1st the most) because you need to use your mind for creativity.

And yes it is true, Gemini and Leo get along as they sextile one another.

As far as applying astrology to autism, the main planets to look at would be Mercury, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. The condition of Uranus and it's relationships to other planets is the biggest one to look at but there are other variables as well. I also was told if Sun and Mercury were in water houses (4, 8 and 12) there is a possibility. I am not sure if I agree with that completely. Yes I have Mercury and Sun in the 8th, and Neptune in the 12th (which happen to trine my Sun/Mercury). But I would also look at what is in the 3rd house as well. Pisces rules my 3rd and I believe that has a lot to do with it in my case (Jupiter being a ruler of Pisces squares my badly conditioned Saturn in my 7th, and Neptune the other ruler of Pisces sesquiquadrate Jupiter). My son almost has an identical chart to mine (though his Sun and Mercury and Moon are in the 3rd house). He is developing a similar way to I did as a child. Interesting...

Anyway I also want to point out that even though Mercury going into rx brings out a lot of frustration to us... there are ways we can all benefit by it. Those under the spectrum may deal with it easier than those who are not.. and it's because we have an easier time paying attention to the messages that Mercury rx is bringing to us. We are all affected individually with it, depending on where in our charts Mercury is transiting, we can refocus on those areas in our lives the best during this time.

I can see no logical reason why astrology should be anything other than nonsense, but I have figured out the astrological chart of myself, family member, and friends (with the help of a good, detailed astrology book), and it's really, really amazing how spot-on it ALWAYS is.

Mind you, I'm not talking about reading your horoscope in the newspaper; that really IS rubbish. If you were to have a professional astrologer work out your chart, they would be able to tell you things about your personality and areas of life that are challenging for you, and I think you'd be amazed at how accurate it is. Read someone else's astrological chart, and you'll see that it isn't "you".

So...despite that fact that I don't understand why it works, it's something that I do believe in, as far as understanding my own and other people's personalities. I don't think it's useful as any kind of fortune telling, and it's pretty much useless if you don't know your time and place of birth.

So true but I admit, it really can be entertaining at times.. you just have to laugh at them

@lionesss

my sun and mercury are in the 8th as well.

initially i was inclined to agree with you because my first call was the same 5 planets you mentioned, also emphasizing uranus....however.....after giving it more consideration....

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i believe, astrologically, the autism spectrum falls under rulership of 3 planetary or astrological influences: Rahu, Uranus, and Saturn. Rahu and Saturn are first class malefics [causers of misery] and Uranus is often considered one as well. the OP article mentions Saturn-Uranus conjunction which, according to my Rosicrucian Ephemeris, was exact only once in the early 1940's and that was in May 1942 @ 29 degrees Taurus. i concur that this conjunction played a vital role in the awareness of autism especially as the two planets progressed into Gemini during 1943, even though they never actually conjoined in an exact way in Gemini.

Rahu is the north node of the moon and features prominently in the Vedic system of astrology whereas it plays a relatively minor [and benefic] role in the western system. i've been studying vedic astrology for 16 years and subscribe to the idea that Rahu is intensely malefic. i believe Rahu accounts for roughly 80% of autism issues and is therefore the single-most significant indicator of autism.

the mutable signs and mutable houses along with their lords also play a significant role in the manifestation of autism. a mutable energy emphasis would predispose one to being hyper-sensitive. and the virgo/pisces axis, i contend, is the primary location, or place to examine, for autism issues.

thanks to ouinon who brought our attention to the currently running saturn-virgo opposition uranus-pisces which was operative in 2008 and will be even more influencial in 2009. those of us wanting to understand the underlying astrological dynamics of autism simply cannot afford to ignore this opposition. i believe it will coincide with a major transformation in the autism arena and should be closely observed by those interested astrologers, especially those of us on the spectrum.

much gratitude to the OP for opportunity to discuss these issues.

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astrology was my uncle's special subject, so yea, you're right.

I find it interesting too. I've not really got into it to say whether I believe or disbelieve it though, personally.

Charlie

Wow yes, very interesting. Virgo/Pisces axis would most definitely be very, very important. I also want to mention that we should all make note of how we react whenever the Sun is in Virgo and the Full Moon is in Pisces (or vise versa but I think the first would be more affective).. in fact I think I wrote a blog about this a while back. Mercury is detriment in Pisces, so Mercury does poorly in the 12th as well (my daughter has a tonne of planets in the 12th and she is not under the spectrum, but she has some strong relationships with other planets as well).. though she has ADHD. Uranus also rules ADHD. But she has Uranus in the 10th trining Jupiter in Cancer in the 2nd (she is super creative... and it's interesting how Virgo sits on her 5th and Mercury is in her 12th, in Aries.. but it trines her Pluto in Sag.. ahh there you go, that explains her creative gift) Anyway I am sorry, I really do ramble when it comes to this.

I have Neptune in the 12th, in retrograde yet, and I am under the spectrum but always been HFA (PDD-NOS) I was speech delayed.. but I wonder if my saving grace was the trine to my Mercury (which is in bad condition, in the 8th yet).. and what may also have helped was Mercury sextiling my natal Pluto in the 9th (which is an auspicious house). My Moon is pretty afflicted and in the 4th but the fact that it's in Taurus helps (exalted there.. ni the exact degree too). But nonetheless, this could explain my emotional issues easily.

lionesss,

please see the reinvented version of my last post. thanks.

As a scorpio, my 'wrong planet' was Pluto. But it's been demoted, so either it doesn't work as well, or maybe everyone born in November will be shorter...


"Our faults lie not within our stars, but within ourselves" - Shakespeare

I know where each of my planets are, but I have no idea what any of it means. Didn't know it could be connected with ASDs. I only know that I'm Aries and that my rising sign is in Leo. That describes me perfectly.

My Uranus is in the 5th house with Moon, Saturn and Neptune. But I have no idea what that means. Might be time to read into this a little.

until hartzofspace started this thread on the Lynn Hayes article, i never speculated as to how autism might play out in astrology...despite the fact that astrology is my primary special interest.

according to David Frawley who is a renowned expert on all things vedic, in his book The Astrology of the Seers [my favorite book on astrology].....Rahu is the main planetary factor behind neurological disorders and abnormal sensitivities of the mind and nervous system. (i feel certain he would include the autism spectrum in this assessment even though autism is a manifestation of neurodiversity rather than neurodisorder.) he goes on to say that a great deal of mental unhappiness and unrest in life can be traced to Rahu; and that both nodes represent very difficult forces to handle. pp. 103-106.

Rahu can easily render us overly sensitive to the masses and unable to fortify ourselves from negative influences from others. it is also associated with bizarre and inappropriate behavior. however both nodes can be indicative of higher consciousness, which may be impossible to achieve without them. and the nodes can indicate a life of seclusion.

when Frawley says both nodes represent difficult forces i take that to mean the mental equivalent of a small nuclear bomb.

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as regards uranus and saturn, some research is needed, but if memory serves......these 2 planets when in favorable aspect, i believe, represent the peacemakers, those who serve as the bridge from one generation to another, or who enable conciliation between quarreling parties and opposing points of view.

if i am correct, the combined energies of uranus and saturn would facilitate a major transition i.e., into the age of aquarius. in a way these 2 planets in combination gave birth to the recognition of autism. therefore they arguably would be rulers of the autism spectrum.

I am glad to see that the article was appreciated. I think that for myself, I find some truths in the esoteric subjects, for most things in life. I am glad that the author of this article, is addressing autism. I am adding a link to another article, purported to be a channeling. Now, while I am leery of channeling, as a rule, some things written here in this article resonated with things I have been thinking about for most of my life. What they say about autism, is amazing. The article is rather long, and it takes awhile to get to the point, so I copied and pasted the beginning of where they start to talk about autism, for those who want to cut to the chase. That way, you can scroll down to it, and begin reading. In reading this, please, take what you like, and leave the rest...

http://kryon.com/k_channel08_discovery.htm

Here's the paragraph:What do you think the Human brain can really do? What do you think it's built to do? Let me give you an example of what your society has come to accept as an "unbalanced person." Some of you think it's a "sick person." Let me talk about the autistic one. Let us talk about autism in what you call the most severe case. (continued)