Firing the only innocent employee

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Avoiding to be sued by not telling them the reason why you're letting them go is the coward way out IMO. People who try and hide things are cowards. Why not be brave? Face the challenge. People who don't admit what they did or do, are dishonest cowards lying bastards.
People who don't give you a reason for doing something, it's something bad and they don't want you to know but guess what, not telling gives themselves away because you know it's really bad. People who refuse to answer questions are hiding something so it makes it obvious what the reason is.

Heck I admire people when they admit their things they do bad, even if they are my enemies or someone I dislike because they had the balls to be honest. I wish more people were like that instead of being cowards.

People can still sue anyway even if they weren't told the reason why they were fired. All they have to do is make assumptions but I think it be hard to prove in court anyway so they can easily get away with it. I have heard about people with disabilities getting fired for no reason so they go to court and file a lawsuit and it ends up in the media. I had an online friend who was fired unfairly. The boss didn't tell him why but he figures it was because of the hearing aid and ADHD and my friend did his job and he had been working there for over a year. Why didn't he go to court? Because he didn't want to be in the center of attention because it would have ended up in the media and he didn't want that.


I guess using the slow season is a good cover up but be careful, if you put up the now hiring sign or put in the papers or on craigslist you are hiring, your former employees are going to know they were not let go due to slow season.

Ever heard the story about that lady with AS being fired from Mcdonalds after working there for 20 something years? Well they got a new boss and he said he was doing some downsizing so he laid her off and other employees too who were also disabled and then she saw later on he was hiring again so what did she do? She went to court. She knew she was fired for having a disability and the boss lied to her or else he wouldn't have that Now Hiring sign up. People who were customers there thought she was a wonderful worker and had no problems with her and she was very friendly. How do I know all this? I read the comments about the article it on a website. People who knew her were posting there to stand up for her because there were some negative comments.


I probably sound angry in this thread but I am just frustrated about how cold hearted people can be and people saying it's okay to do. Still no one has answered me if my mother was wrong or not so she must be right. Or did she take it literal?

There's so little information to go on about what really happened, we may as well discuss how many pies really are in the sky or what percentage of the head is in the clouds. But that never deters me, so a couple of points:

Nowhere does it say what part the 'victim' played in the incident. Fnord, I've seen people like those in you're list of distractive types but it's an impossible leap to assume the naive person was one of these. There are other types of people: the cruel persecutor, the confidence lacking blame shifter etc etc who will pick on others regardless. Maybe that's what happend and the dismissed person was a good worker who get pecked on? It happens.

Did someone else fill the naive persons role when he left? Did the wind-up-merchants find someone else to get at?
This happens too. It's been noted in school bullying that when a victim is removed, the bully generally doesn't see the error of his ways, but moves to the next 'weakest'. I recently read about some research where a group of bullying types were all put together and soon enough, the least confident of them started to get victimised! I don't go with the politically correct viewpoint that victims are 50% to blame for what happens to them.

In general, my current thoughts on this are that justice/fairness/equality don't exist in the real world as we like to think they do. Those higher up the pecking order will always get their fair share first, and then start trying to grab the share of everybody lower than them. And they will say that's 'fair'.

Here is another thing I learned last night from my boyfriend's brother.

The bosses find loopholes to fire you. All they have to do is find every little thing to write you up for to fire you, nothing major.

My bf's brother got fired from Albertsons because he reported his boss for doing something wrong and he got mad at him for getting him into trouble, so he found every little thing to write him up for it to fire him. He went to the union but they said there wasn't enough evidence.

My bf got his boss mad too for saying to the safety inspector his boss told him to plug in two extension cords when they told him it was a fire hazard, so they went to him and he got mad at my bf. So he put him on bathroom duty and tried to get him fired by trying to find something to write him up for. But fortunately, he is a perfectionist at his job so the boss couldn't find anything wrong in the bathroom so he gave up after a week. My bf was so lucky he didn't lose his job.

ManErg, that's what happened in our family. When I, the eternal scapegoat, cut contact, my father (the next weakest one) became the scapegoat. Then when they'd cut him too, they started with our mother. And now that the 3 of us are gone, I'm having a ball because I'm sure the bullies in the family are at each other's throats trying to determine who is the next weakest to scapegoat.

So I'm not surprised my father scapegoated the innocent guy. Afterall, it's what he did to me as well (and later my siblings did to him).

I often wonder if some families/people are less close to their animal pack nature than others and treat each other less like predators...

Thats how it always was with me. People would make fun of the things I would say and mock what I said with ret*d voices and then I would end up being the one who gets fired. (cause they didn't like me) >> f**k society.

Point 1. Unless your job description requires you to work independently, you are expected to get along with your colleagues. If your 'behaviour' results in lower 'productivity' from your colleagues then you are a disruptive influence to the work environment. Business is business. The company hired you to increase its business afterall.

Point 2. Most jobs require you work 8-10 hours a day, 5 days a week. You will be LIVING WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES far more time than your actually family. Think about it. Which is why when your employer hired you, they had in the back of their minds whether you are capable and compatible with existing employees. They will throw out the bad apple from the cart.

I symphasize with the unfortunate employee. No doubt s/he was competent. However, corporations will look to ways to remove you if you are not pulling in the same direction as everyone else. That is a challenge for AS (including me a few years back), the workplace is not black and white. If you wish to 'succeed' you need to learn the unwritten rules of workplace survival. Spend time with your colleagues, peers, managers other than work-related duties. It's the CULTURE of the company you need to focus on.

Afterall, we are living on earth and we need to adapt. It's too easy especially for us AS to hide behind the computer all day and not meeting real people in the real world (I am tempted!). But we must. Why do AS children undertake ST and OT? So they can spend their days behind a monitor?

Have courage my friends.