How do you relate to conspiracy theories?

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The steel didn't have to melt for the structure to collapse. If you heat a paper clip over a flame it gets much easier to bend even though it's nowhere near hot enough to melt. Plus the planes hit the building at such a high rate of speed that the impact alone caused extensive core structure damage. If it was just a fire it probably wouldn't have collapsed. Both towers began to collapse at the exact level where the plane had hit them, not at the floors above where the fire had spread. It was really the collision that precipitated the collapse, the fire alone wouldn't have done it.

Tower 7 collapsed because a big hunk of the south tower fell right into it. There was a massive gash on the south side of Tower 7 and it was teetering on the verge of collapse for hours. That’s main the reason the FDNY didn’t even attempt to fight the fire in Tower 7. Most of the video footage of the Tower 7 collapse was from the north so you couldn't see all the damage on the other side.

I am first witness to the following, and that the above story is pure BS:

WTC7 was not hit by anything. It collapsed immediately after a 300 baud modem noise was heard on intercoms, amplifiers, and instruments I was using at the time to measure electricity in the ground. News reports of that time mentioned electrocutions of dogs in NYC and cows outside of the city by Telluric Currents which I was part of a project to measure and attempt to use, such currents caused by grounded artificial electricity at 50 and 60 cycles. The 300 baud modem noise coincidental to WTC7's Demolition was about 2 million watts and 10,000-20,000 cycles, suspected to come from Navy submarine/groundwave missile command radio station NAA in Cutler, Maine, near where G Bush senior lives. WTC7 was quite far away from the twin towers and was not hit by anything.
It's first floor only and entirely collapsed first, about 7 hours after the other buildings did.
That this was going to happen was known, and warnings were shouted over megaphones,
although there was little or no fire coming from the building at 5pm.

I was close enough to receive the CD signal AND hear the noise of WTC7 collapsing, and have seen FDNY footage showing WTC7's collapse clearly beginning only on the ground floor.


I'm sure Bin Laden had no idea to make the WTC resemble scenes from 9-11-2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY especially wherein they found THE MONOLITH on the Moon!


View of the twin tower reflected in the Millenium Hilton Which still stands today and was not damaged by their collapse: (Millenium Hotel was designed to look like the 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY MONOLITH.)


My definition of CONSPIRACY THEORY:
The process of conspiring to set up so that the truth is excluded by Occam's Razor and Common Sense, for a very evil purpose, in a similar way to how Magicians create the Appearance of pulling Rabbits out of Hats, which, if believed to be true, should be utilized to produce rabbits in poor starving countries!

I know there are no reptilians.
I know there are no space alien UFO's.
I know that we are not being told everything about JFK.
I know ... a long list of true things like this.

The news can lie. Computers NOW can lie, remember HAL9000 from 2001.
But can a voltage meter or thermometer or amplifier lie?
Maybe, but who can know it's there and set it up to do so?

Last edited by ValMikeSmith on 18 Jan 2009, 1:51 am, edited 1 time in total.

Lets start a separate thread about each major conspiracy theory. I vote that the skull and bones society should be on the list, illuminati, underground governments. well everybody add something they feel is a good one.
Where are the lone gunmen when we need them.

SAY WHAT? Right here!! !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUKQz-xm0is

I seem to meet a lot of people who tell me about conspiracy theories. People - cynical people - who seem to tell me conspiracy theories a lot.

I guess that is because I'm fairly mindblind, they can tell that and they are trying to educate me.

My advice would be not to believe all these conspiracy theories. With my experience of being told them so much, my feeling is they are a subtle scare tactic.

I'm keeping an eye out on this one...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... n-sky.html
http://www.louthleader.co.uk/news/UPDAT ... 4884565.jp

Maybe the missing blade is still stuck in the UFO (seriously)?

Oh man. . .I miss those guys! For those of you who enjoy conspiracy I must recommend, "The Big Book of Conspiracies" by Factoid Books. It's an entertaining romp through the major conspiracy theories of history. Lots of fun!

http://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Conspira ... 1563891867

I third that. I was never able to believe the "big picture" they want us to believe, because there are way too many details that don´t match up. I am the same way with movies; I am always amazed at how many people will accept illogical elements, or brush them off or forget about them, just because they want to believe the story in the movie....but I just can´t do that, if it doesn´t fit. Ruins the whole thing for me.

For this reason, I guess my mind is designed to believe in conspiracy theories. Of course, nobody has come up with a good alternate theory about what really happened during 9/11, because they don´t really know. I think it´s because of the far fetched ideas that some people have had in trying to guess that has lowered the validity of some of us disbelievers. I´m sure the conspirators count on that, and feel they don´t need to worry about us...one of the reasons why they can get away with it.

I find the skull and bones society fascinating....

At the very least there should be an independent investigation ran by people who are not political lackeys. I'd trust a wolf to protect the sheep before I'd trust Tom Kean to run an open investigation.

I used to think there might be something to conspiracy theories, until I found myself at the center of a rather large one, at least on the national level. After reading what these people 'knew' about what I had done and who I am, and after seeing the 'proof' they had to offer, I was suddenly able to dismiss all other conspiracy theories as completely silly. There might be some truth to some of them, but I seriously doubt the outlandish crap that people come up with has any truth to it.

What's more is that I now feel pity for people who allow themselves to be so deluded that they actually believe this stuff, despite the fact that I used to be one of them.

P.S. I should note that I still find them highly entertaining.

The MPAA are terrorists because they tell people that buying pirate DVDs funds terrorism to scare people out of buying them, so they are using fear to get what they want, therefore they are terrorists

Technicalities are so fun sometimes...

The thing about the lizards who rule the world, no. Hidden agendas of my government and stuff, sometimes. I answered that I belive in some on the poll.

Some conspiracy theories can be interesting, it's always fun to imagine "what it?". But it's rare for any to withstand scrutiny.

However, I do have a conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories.

I think all conspiracy theories (except for this one, of course) are ultimately created by The Government (TM), as a means of distracting the public with false stories, so that they'll be so busy chasing after phantom conspiracies that they will never discover the real Evil Conspiracies (TM) the government is up to.

I think there might be some truth to that Arcanyn. I'm reading a book by Richard C Hoagland called Dark Mission The secret history of Nasa. There is an interesting point where he desciribes how a "Man in Black" was ushered around the press at Nasa's JPL(Jet Propulsion Lab) by a high ranking official handing out disinformation during the first moon landing. So from the start they put a seed in the minds of the press that the moon landings were faked which could then be used at a later date if needed to cover anything up.