Email from my uni - Please write and complain.
ok. I finally understand.
How is it factually incorrect?
I think that is where this could very easily end up for some people in the college, yes.
Thanks for clarifying.
If there was specific evidence then I would have given it - but its very difficult for me to illustrate the cultural problems my university has. In short the admissions screw up and take on a lot of not very pleasant people.
So you are standing between the bullies and their potential victims. Thinking of the vulnerable and disabled as "pathetic" is a character flaw of bullies, morons and insensitive people. If you mess with them...I hope you have some martial arts training and a small army at your disposal.
I have seen this type of thing from both sides, I work at a university and on some occasions I have had dealings with dyslexic students who sometimes sit their exams under different conditions to the rest of the student population. I have also had some dealings with students who have mental health trouble such as stress related problems which have caused them to drop out for a year and repeat a year.
When I deal with such a student I normally do my best to help them navigate their way through their studies and time at university. But at the same time I am a dyslexic aspie who is not open about my state. When I went to university nobody told me how to report the fact that I am dyslexic and I was never told what if any help would have been offered to me. As no reward to reporting myself was shown to me, and as I feared being stamped with an damning label I kept my mouth shut about being dyslexic.
I was spotted by a few fellow students, and one member of staff but I went under the radar. I have heard some academics who have said some bigoted things about dyslexia while others are more accepting. I have always strongly opposed outing a person with dyslexia against their wishs. On the subject of AS I hold the same view.
The question of do I disclose is a complex one. Please see the following documents for more details.
www.equalityforwardscotland.ac.uk/documents/91
Here is one about the different attitudes which staff can have to dyslexia
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/s ... ioncode=26
A book on the subject of dyslexic "profs" has been published
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/s ... ioncode=26
I have not been formally DXed with AS, but I strongly suspect I have it. When I went to university years ago and started my adult life it was unknown. It was before L. Wing rediscovered the work of Hans, so as a school boy or school leaver I had no chance to be DXed then. I suspect that this is quite a common problem, many people with AS are much older than the work of L. Wing. So we have been around longer than the modern clinical DX of AS.
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Diagnosed under the DSM5 rules with autism spectrum disorder, under DSM4 psychologist said would have been AS (299.80) but I suspect that I am somewhere between 299.80 and 299.00 (Autism) under DSM4.
And that makes me think sometimes that there should be a category for all those who are not impaired. To stop them from displaying AS as something that doesn't mean you can't participate in daily life normally like everyone else.
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I think the OP is doing more damage to the Aspie image by complaining and kicking up a fuss than the letter is.
personally I see nothing wrong with this letter, I doubt any Trained Medical professional would argue that it is unfair.
Then again, I suppose the Truth hurts for some people
Most disabilities and impairments, including many moderate and severe ones, are not apparent from observing the person. The vast majority of disabilities are "invisible." There are those with moderate or severe impairments, such as progressive or relapsing/remitting conditions, who can still work and attend university. Some of them appear unimpaired to observers.
How about changing the widespread misconceptions surrounding disability instead, rather than trying to distance oneself from what are commonly considered "those more impaired people"?
I've made the experience that many people absolutely do not want to associate with that term.
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ok. I finally understand.
How is it factually incorrect?
Because they have sent it out as part of "Mental Health Week".
I think that is where this could very easily end up for some people in the college, yes.
Thanks for clarifying.
If there was specific evidence then I would have given it - but its very difficult for me to illustrate the cultural problems my university has. In short the admissions screw up and take on a lot of not very pleasant people.
So you are standing between the bullies and their potential victims. Thinking of the vulnerable and disabled as "pathetic" is a character flaw of bullies, morons and insensitive people. If you mess with them...I hope you have some martial arts training and a small army at your disposal.
Its not the sort of place when anyone would beat anyone up - the bullying types here are a lot more subtle.
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And this isn't just an "at first sight" thing that I'm describing. I'm refering even to people who have known these AS people for about a year or more. If you were to ask these people if "Person X" (one of the AS people that I know in real life) is "severely impaired", most would say "No, not impaired at all". If these people knew about the AS, they might say "Well, mildly impaired, maybe". Even the lower-functioning aspies I know, people wouldn't refer to them as "severely impaired".
Also, one thing that I didn't explain is that when I refer to "severely impaired", I'm refering to overall function. Not just one particular area. For example, a blind person may be severely impaired only in regards to their vision. But since their cognition, communication, mobility, and hearing skills are just fine they would only be "moderately impaired" in the overall scheme.
When I deal with such a student I normally do my best to help them navigate their way through their studies and time at university. But at the same time I am a dyslexic aspie who is not open about my state. When I went to university nobody told me how to report the fact that I am dyslexic and I was never told what if any help would have been offered to me. As no reward to reporting myself was shown to me, and as I feared being stamped with an damning label I kept my mouth shut about being dyslexic.
I was spotted by a few fellow students, and one member of staff but I went under the radar. I have heard some academics who have said some bigoted things about dyslexia while others are more accepting. I have always strongly opposed outing a person with dyslexia against their wishs. On the subject of AS I hold the same view.
The question of do I disclose is a complex one. Please see the following documents for more details.
www.equalityforwardscotland.ac.uk/documents/91
Here is one about the different attitudes which staff can have to dyslexia
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/s ... ioncode=26
A book on the subject of dyslexic "profs" has been published
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/s ... ioncode=26
I have not been formally DXed with AS, but I strongly suspect I have it. When I went to university years ago and started my adult life it was unknown. It was before L. Wing rediscovered the work of Hans, so as a school boy or school leaver I had no chance to be DXed then. I suspect that this is quite a common problem, many people with AS are much older than the work of L. Wing. So we have been around longer than the modern clinical DX of AS.
I do kind of get to see things from the other side by being on student committees - though I know of some staff who have elected not to register any disability with the university and it really does not take a genius to know why.
personally I see nothing wrong with this letter, I doubt any Trained Medical professional would argue that it is unfair.
Then again, I suppose the Truth hurts for some people
What's very unfair is sending an email out to all students in college telling people what AS is. If they decided to send out an email saying what an individual ethnic group is, or even one about a given sexual orientation, there would be uproar.
Erm, it's part of Mental health awareness week, is it not?
Making it taboo to talk about Aspergers is just going to make more people take the piss out of it. It's basic psychology, really.
Tell someone they're not allowed to do something = they will want to do it,
Tell someone it is taboo to talk critically about a group of people (geeks, autistics, the disabled, black people, asian people, etc.) = they will mock them even more mercilessly.
Refuse to provide information and understanding = fear of the unknown = more incentive to react negatively.
There is nothing slanderous about what has been said about aspergers. everything I have read seems perfectly truthful and reasonable. In fact i probably think the reason why the Disalbility people have been patronising is because of your attitude.
Now that's a straw man argument, and a pretty ret*d one at that. People know about ethnic groups, or sexual orientation, but mentall illness and other disorders are still hazy territory, which is why we need things like Mental Health awareness week.
I have been known to complain about things and still do, but I agree with -Vorzac- on this. Ok it is not a mental illness, but it does currently come under mental health.
What are you hoping to achieve by doing this? If it is a retraction email sent around you might get what you wish for and regret it.
Besides if you have so much as anxiety you have a common mental illness. Welcome to the mental's club
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